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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 140676" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Infocomm???Agreed that the top and bottom boxes are not within 1/4 wavelength over most of the freq range.The DIFFERENCE is that they are covering different physical areas, and because of the large horns, there is very little interference in the other cabinets &quot;zone&quot;.&nbsp; So the sound is MUCH clearer than if you have multiple cabinets covering the same area.Yes in the area where they &quot;converge&quot; there will be a little bit of overlap-but since each source is &quot;correct&quot; (a single arrival), there is much less interference than when you use boxes that have a lot of &quot;self interference&quot;, combined with another box that has a lot of &quot;self interference&quot; 9which when summed together really starts to tear apart the sound).So for a small area of the audience there is a small compromise-not the entire audience area like you get when you use a typical &quot;line&quot;.I really love how people use the term &quot;scaleable&quot; when talking about line arrays.&nbsp; They are NOWHERE nearly as truly scaleable as people think.If you need a 60* vertical coverage pattern-how many boxes is it going to take? Not 1 or 2.And as you go up in numbers, you get summation down in the bottom octave-but very little in the upper octaves, and the more boxes you add, the worse the sound quality gets.You have different product models for different output levels, the same as with Danley.What REALLY happens with the sound is often VERY DIFFERENT that what people &quot;think&quot; is happening.Such as the whole &quot;a line array has a move even coverage front to back&quot;.&nbsp; If you use a good quality single point source, at the same heigh, you actually get a more even SPL coverage front to back and MUCH more tonal consistency with a smaller-less expensive product.We have had MANY cases/stories in which the owners/users of very popular line arrays tell us stories in which a large line arrays (that are considered &quot;the best there is&quot;) has been either directly compared or used in the exact same configuration, and the Jerichos have greatly outperformed it.&nbsp; Some even laugh at their own systems-(that they have a huge amount of money invested in) when the Jerichos do the same job-and are smaller-lighter-less expensive etc.The whole idea that a &quot;line array&quot; &quot;throws&quot; the sound further, could NOT be further from the truth.&nbsp; REAL WORLD examples, testing, side by side comparisons etc prove other wise in every single case.But as long as people want to &quot;believe&quot;, and not actually LISTEN, then I guess the &quot;fallacy&quot;&nbsp; will continue.&nbsp; Just keep drinking the Kool aid--------------Oh well.&nbsp; We will continue to do what we do, and maybe some people will come around and actually test and listen, and not just believe the marketing.I heard a demo last week that I REALLY wanted to yell BS to what was being said-but I held my tongue-it was not my demo or place to question.&nbsp; They were shoveling out large amounts of crap that is TOTALLY 100% BS.&nbsp; But until people question it, they will continue to do so-hoping that people will simply swallow it.&nbsp; But because they are &quot;XYZ&quot; company, most people just blindly accept it as &quot;fact&quot;.LISTEN PEOPLE LISTEN-MEASURE-QUESTION whether or not it actually makes SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This is AUDIO.&nbsp; It is SUPPOSED to be about the SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER why you got into audio.&nbsp; It was because you were MOVED in some way.&nbsp; Let&#039;s bring realism and reality back to the industry.Getting off soap box for now</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 140676, member: 30"] Re: Infocomm??? Agreed that the top and bottom boxes are not within 1/4 wavelength over most of the freq range. The DIFFERENCE is that they are covering different physical areas, and because of the large horns, there is very little interference in the other cabinets "zone". So the sound is MUCH clearer than if you have multiple cabinets covering the same area. Yes in the area where they "converge" there will be a little bit of overlap-but since each source is "correct" (a single arrival), there is much less interference than when you use boxes that have a lot of "self interference", combined with another box that has a lot of "self interference" 9which when summed together really starts to tear apart the sound). So for a small area of the audience there is a small compromise-not the entire audience area like you get when you use a typical "line". I really love how people use the term "scaleable" when talking about line arrays. They are NOWHERE nearly as truly scaleable as people think. If you need a 60* vertical coverage pattern-how many boxes is it going to take? Not 1 or 2. And as you go up in numbers, you get summation down in the bottom octave-but very little in the upper octaves, and the more boxes you add, the worse the sound quality gets. You have different product models for different output levels, the same as with Danley. What REALLY happens with the sound is often VERY DIFFERENT that what people "think" is happening. Such as the whole "a line array has a move even coverage front to back". If you use a good quality single point source, at the same heigh, you actually get a more even SPL coverage front to back and MUCH more tonal consistency with a smaller-less expensive product. We have had MANY cases/stories in which the owners/users of very popular line arrays tell us stories in which a large line arrays (that are considered "the best there is") has been either directly compared or used in the exact same configuration, and the Jerichos have greatly outperformed it. Some even laugh at their own systems-(that they have a huge amount of money invested in) when the Jerichos do the same job-and are smaller-lighter-less expensive etc. The whole idea that a "line array" "throws" the sound further, could NOT be further from the truth. REAL WORLD examples, testing, side by side comparisons etc prove other wise in every single case. But as long as people want to "believe", and not actually LISTEN, then I guess the "fallacy" will continue. Just keep drinking the Kool aid-------------- Oh well. We will continue to do what we do, and maybe some people will come around and actually test and listen, and not just believe the marketing. I heard a demo last week that I REALLY wanted to yell BS to what was being said-but I held my tongue-it was not my demo or place to question. They were shoveling out large amounts of crap that is TOTALLY 100% BS. But until people question it, they will continue to do so-hoping that people will simply swallow it. But because they are "XYZ" company, most people just blindly accept it as "fact". LISTEN PEOPLE LISTEN-MEASURE-QUESTION whether or not it actually makes SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is AUDIO. It is SUPPOSED to be about the SOUND!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER why you got into audio. It was because you were MOVED in some way. Let's bring realism and reality back to the industry. Getting off soap box for now [/QUOTE]

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