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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 140773" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Infocomm???The first problem is finding a sub that is only 3dB down at 32 vs 100Hz.If you look at the UNPROCESSED response, you will find that that is NOT easy to find a sub that does that. You HAVE to look at the measured response-DO NOT rely on the simple numbers.&nbsp; They can be VERY misleading-so much as to be outright lies.You can&#039;t use the &quot;processed response&quot; because whatever boost is added down low HAS TO BE SUBTRACTED from the max output.&nbsp; This is a little FACT that people showing processed responses WISH you just ignore-but it IS REAL.&nbsp; If a 6dB boost is added, then the max output at that freq HAS to be 6dB lower.&nbsp; No way around that.The -3dB has to be from &quot;something&quot;.&nbsp; Sometimes this&nbsp; is an imaginary &quot;who knows what&quot;.&nbsp; But what it SHOULD be is -3dB from the RATED SENSITIVITY.&nbsp; Danley rates the sensitivity as an &quot;average&quot; in the intended operating band of the loudspeaker.In the case of subs-we also include the &quot;special numbers&quot; which are the peaks in the response.&nbsp; We tell&nbsp; you specifically what freq and SHOW YOU the measured response.&nbsp; Without the graph-who know where the numbers come from.I will present another argument.&nbsp; For any sort of &quot;pop&quot; music, the sub needs to be able to &quot;outrun&quot; the tops by at least 10dB-not just a little bit.&nbsp; 15dB is preferred.&nbsp; For some types of music (EDM etc) 25dB is a better target number.So in the Danley lineup. the 2 products that come to mind that most closely match your &quot;requirements&quot; are the TH112 and the TH118.&nbsp; The TH118 goes a good bit louder, but the TH112 goes lower-in relation to the rest of the response.Personally, the TH118 would be the better &quot;overall&quot; choice.&nbsp; You could always add a little boost down low if needed.Remember that these are measured OUTSIDE, without reflections.&nbsp; So inside a room-the room gain will give you a little bit low freq extension.The SBH20 is designed like all Danley products.&nbsp; The idea being as &quot;neutral&quot; as possible-so that it will as accurately as possible reproduce the incoming signal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 140773, member: 30"] Re: Infocomm??? The first problem is finding a sub that is only 3dB down at 32 vs 100Hz. If you look at the UNPROCESSED response, you will find that that is NOT easy to find a sub that does that. You HAVE to look at the measured response-DO NOT rely on the simple numbers. They can be VERY misleading-so much as to be outright lies. You can't use the "processed response" because whatever boost is added down low HAS TO BE SUBTRACTED from the max output. This is a little FACT that people showing processed responses WISH you just ignore-but it IS REAL. If a 6dB boost is added, then the max output at that freq HAS to be 6dB lower. No way around that. The -3dB has to be from "something". Sometimes this is an imaginary "who knows what". But what it SHOULD be is -3dB from the RATED SENSITIVITY. Danley rates the sensitivity as an "average" in the intended operating band of the loudspeaker. In the case of subs-we also include the "special numbers" which are the peaks in the response. We tell you specifically what freq and SHOW YOU the measured response. Without the graph-who know where the numbers come from. I will present another argument. For any sort of "pop" music, the sub needs to be able to "outrun" the tops by at least 10dB-not just a little bit. 15dB is preferred. For some types of music (EDM etc) 25dB is a better target number. So in the Danley lineup. the 2 products that come to mind that most closely match your "requirements" are the TH112 and the TH118. The TH118 goes a good bit louder, but the TH112 goes lower-in relation to the rest of the response. Personally, the TH118 would be the better "overall" choice. You could always add a little boost down low if needed. Remember that these are measured OUTSIDE, without reflections. So inside a room-the room gain will give you a little bit low freq extension. The SBH20 is designed like all Danley products. The idea being as "neutral" as possible-so that it will as accurately as possible reproduce the incoming signal. [/QUOTE]

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