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<blockquote data-quote="Bennett Prescott" data-source="post: 68260" data-attributes="member: 4">Re: Limiting Within Line ArraysDavid,This is an excellent question, and one that explains a lot about why large high end systems are deployed the way they are. I have come to believe that most audio systems, certainly loudspeakers and amplifiers, are characterized by their behavior in limiting... whether it be a tenth of a dB or ten dB. It&#039;s a question that&#039;s very hard to find the end of, too: gain shading is one thing, but what about the HF boost I applied to the top half of the array to compensate for air loss? What about the wide LF cut I&#039;m using for steering? In cardioid subwoofers, if I only use two I generally need to turn down the rear one - but then the pattern goes all funny in limit.While sometimes the answer is as simple as &quot;bring more, identical gear&quot; the catch 22 is that the people who will be spending the most time in limit are the ones who can&#039;t or won&#039;t bring more gear. I am also unaware of any system that allows you to chain gain reduction between elements, so limiting in many line arrays can be one of those &quot;well, do you want it right 90% of the time, or wrong but consistently wrong?&quot;. Certainly there are many system decisions where I choose to be consistently wrong, but of course there&#039;s always more than one dimension to that decision.If you figure it out, let me know.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bennett Prescott, post: 68260, member: 4"] Re: Limiting Within Line Arrays David, This is an excellent question, and one that explains a lot about why large high end systems are deployed the way they are. I have come to believe that most audio systems, certainly loudspeakers and amplifiers, are characterized by their behavior in limiting... whether it be a tenth of a dB or ten dB. It's a question that's very hard to find the end of, too: gain shading is one thing, but what about the HF boost I applied to the top half of the array to compensate for air loss? What about the wide LF cut I'm using for steering? In cardioid subwoofers, if I only use two I generally need to turn down the rear one - but then the pattern goes all funny in limit. While sometimes the answer is as simple as "bring more, identical gear" the catch 22 is that the people who will be spending the most time in limit are the ones who can't or won't bring more gear. I am also unaware of any system that allows you to chain gain reduction between elements, so limiting in many line arrays can be one of those "well, do you want it right 90% of the time, or wrong but consistently wrong?". Certainly there are many system decisions where I choose to be consistently wrong, but of course there's always more than one dimension to that decision. If you figure it out, let me know. [/QUOTE]

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