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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 72651" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Real world tuning in a theatreI can see all sorts of &quot;issues&quot; with it.It would likely have to be an already installed system.&nbsp; What the &quot;customer&quot; would get out of it would be a highly optimized system-which would be a good thing.But I can see where the &quot;discussions&quot; would go astray-into critiquing the actual install-and not focusing on the task at hand-making the most out of it.What if the cabinets aren&#039;t aimed where some people think they should?&nbsp; Do you use a DSP that has all pass filters in it?&nbsp; What if most of the people attending do not use all pass filters or have them available?&nbsp; What do THEY do in that situation?And it goes on and on.And even if there is not a &quot;conclusive&quot; result-A LOT could be learned by such an experience.I know the way I would approach such a room-and the general compromises I accept-but would love to hear what others-in the exact same situation-the same loudspeakers etc would do.And do you use a room that has a very designed loudspeaker system with good acoustics? or one that has a system that isn&#039;t so good, and some bad reflections?I can see a lot of &quot;well if they had used XYZ speakers we would not have this problem.You have to ask yourself &quot;What am I here to do TODAY&quot;.&nbsp; NOT-well I would change this and that-add some things and so forth.And of course there is the install side of things that allow much more time for setup than a portable situation.&nbsp; So those would have to be separate classes.&nbsp; Maybe the portable situation in a large room with different types of systems.&nbsp; Line array-point source, with both well behaved and poor examples of each (but what manufacturer wants to be the &quot;poor example&quot;?)It would take some REAL organization to pull it off-but I bet-with proper advertising-you could get some &quot;heavy hitters&quot; in the alignment world there.&nbsp; And if everybody could put their egos in their back posckets-we could all have some fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 72651, member: 30"] Re: Real world tuning in a theatre I can see all sorts of "issues" with it. It would likely have to be an already installed system. What the "customer" would get out of it would be a highly optimized system-which would be a good thing. But I can see where the "discussions" would go astray-into critiquing the actual install-and not focusing on the task at hand-making the most out of it. What if the cabinets aren't aimed where some people think they should? Do you use a DSP that has all pass filters in it? What if most of the people attending do not use all pass filters or have them available? What do THEY do in that situation? And it goes on and on. And even if there is not a "conclusive" result-A LOT could be learned by such an experience. I know the way I would approach such a room-and the general compromises I accept-but would love to hear what others-in the exact same situation-the same loudspeakers etc would do. And do you use a room that has a very designed loudspeaker system with good acoustics? or one that has a system that isn't so good, and some bad reflections? I can see a lot of "well if they had used XYZ speakers we would not have this problem. You have to ask yourself "What am I here to do TODAY". NOT-well I would change this and that-add some things and so forth. And of course there is the install side of things that allow much more time for setup than a portable situation. So those would have to be separate classes. Maybe the portable situation in a large room with different types of systems. Line array-point source, with both well behaved and poor examples of each (but what manufacturer wants to be the "poor example"?) It would take some REAL organization to pull it off-but I bet-with proper advertising-you could get some "heavy hitters" in the alignment world there. And if everybody could put their egos in their back posckets-we could all have some fun. [/QUOTE]

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