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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 108024" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Taking sound education to the next levelIt is not something you are going to get all at once.&nbsp; It is all &quot;bits and pieces&quot; and putting them together.Synaudcon classes would be a good start.&nbsp; Even the beginning classes are usually real eye openers for most people.The system design classes require that previous classes be taken.I would look into what types of software the company is presently using (both in measurement and prediction), get some additional seats for those and start to &quot;play around&quot; o your own time.&nbsp; Then as you have questions post them.&nbsp; But the questions need to be kinda specific-nobody wants to write an instruction manual on line.The BIG thing to understand about both prediction and measurement is they will NOT tell you what to do.&nbsp; But rather they will show you the consequencies/results of your choice fo speaker placement or type and measurement.It is up to YOU and YOUR KNOWLEDGE to be able to figure out what to do to get a better result.All measurement systems basically do the same thing-just how they do it-what the controls are is the big difference.&nbsp; It is easy for somebody who understands how do make good measurements and understand what they mean to learn a new measurement system.&nbsp; It is a lot harder for somebody who does not know how to measure (and understand what the traces are telling you) to use any measurement system.And the same thing for design.&nbsp; You have to understand the fundamentals before you start to just &quot;throw speakers in a room&quot;.&nbsp; You HAVE to have a logical reason for placing a particular speaker where you do.And books like Sound System Engineering (there are several editions) are a good start.You also need to find out how far your employer is willing to go (cost wise) to help educate you.I spent A LOT of my own time (weekends/evenings etc) playing around -reading and learning on my own.&nbsp; Yes my employer has taken care of the actual expenses-but it was a lot more valuable because of what I did on my own.I also came from the rental world.&nbsp; I found out quickly that a lot of what I had learned in that world was simply wrong.&nbsp; When you learn the &quot;real&quot; truth, things become much clearer and make more sense than the many &quot;wifes&quot; (roadie) tales from the road that are passed around.There will be a good bit of &quot;relearning&quot; and clearing out of some of your memory.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 108024, member: 30"] Re: Taking sound education to the next level It is not something you are going to get all at once. It is all "bits and pieces" and putting them together. Synaudcon classes would be a good start. Even the beginning classes are usually real eye openers for most people. The system design classes require that previous classes be taken. I would look into what types of software the company is presently using (both in measurement and prediction), get some additional seats for those and start to "play around" o your own time. Then as you have questions post them. But the questions need to be kinda specific-nobody wants to write an instruction manual on line. The BIG thing to understand about both prediction and measurement is they will NOT tell you what to do. But rather they will show you the consequencies/results of your choice fo speaker placement or type and measurement. It is up to YOU and YOUR KNOWLEDGE to be able to figure out what to do to get a better result. All measurement systems basically do the same thing-just how they do it-what the controls are is the big difference. It is easy for somebody who understands how do make good measurements and understand what they mean to learn a new measurement system. It is a lot harder for somebody who does not know how to measure (and understand what the traces are telling you) to use any measurement system. And the same thing for design. You have to understand the fundamentals before you start to just "throw speakers in a room". You HAVE to have a logical reason for placing a particular speaker where you do. And books like Sound System Engineering (there are several editions) are a good start. You also need to find out how far your employer is willing to go (cost wise) to help educate you. I spent A LOT of my own time (weekends/evenings etc) playing around -reading and learning on my own. Yes my employer has taken care of the actual expenses-but it was a lot more valuable because of what I did on my own. I also came from the rental world. I found out quickly that a lot of what I had learned in that world was simply wrong. When you learn the "real" truth, things become much clearer and make more sense than the many "wifes" (roadie) tales from the road that are passed around. There will be a good bit of "relearning" and clearing out of some of your memory. [/QUOTE]

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