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<blockquote data-quote="Simon Coffin" data-source="post: 3144" data-attributes="member: 388">Gents,I&#039;ve been doing a fair amount of work lately mixing for a local provider, usually Corporate talking heads stuff, a couple of headset mics, a handheld or two, a podium and a bit of playback for the breaks.&nbsp; Most of this has been on an LS9, which hardly taxes it&#039;s capabilities, so I haven&#039;t really had to do much digging around on the mixer to get the job done.&nbsp; This past Saturday however was a different situation, a Corporate Christmas Party with full band, DJ, a couple of MCs, main PA setup and L/R delays to cover the width of the room.Since I hadn&#039;t used the LS9 in a full setup like this, I decided to pickup the mixer a day earlier and spend some time with it in my garage.&nbsp; Following my usual habits on my 01v96 I returned the mixer to factory settings by recalling scene 01 &quot;Initial data&quot; and checked all the patching.&nbsp; Everything seemed ok, all the inputs worked, Mix1 through 5 were configured for the stage monitors and I could see output levels on the Meters screen.&nbsp; Following the default settings Mix 13 was routed to Effect Rack 5 and Mix 14 to Effect Rack 6 and I could see levels going into the Racks and the outputs returning to Channels 29,30,31 &amp; 32 as I wanted.&nbsp; &nbsp; The Main L/R outputs were also showing level, so I thought I was in good shape.At the show, with everything built and powered up I grabbed my Talkback mic and started going through the wedges and mains.&nbsp; Everything worked but I had a very noticeable delay on the Right main output.&nbsp; Very distinct, very annoying and utterly unusable.&nbsp; I checked through my patching and traced the signal flow as best as my limited experience with this board would allow, but still couldn&#039;t find anything.&nbsp; Eventually I repatched the rig to mono and ran the show on the Left output.Once the band was playing and I had their mix settled I started going through the signal flow some more and realized that the default setup has Mix13, 14, 15 and 16 going to Effect racks 5,6,7 &amp; 8 respectively.&nbsp; And what was setup in Effect Rack 8, being fed by Mix 16, aka the Right main output?&nbsp; A 250ms delay.Beyond the fact that Yamaha&#039;s terminology, everything is a Mix, rather than the traditional Aux&#039;s and L/R busses, is confusing - why in the hell would the default factory setting send the Right Main output through a 250ms delay?Something tells me I can&#039;t be the first to stumble across this gem, but a search doesn&#039;t reveal any other posts on a similar subject.Along these same lines, can someone enlighten me on the relationship of Mix15 and Mix16 and the L/R Mains.&nbsp; They appear to be mostly one and the same, but there are a few places where they are not quite the same.CiaoSimon</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simon Coffin, post: 3144, member: 388"] Gents, I've been doing a fair amount of work lately mixing for a local provider, usually Corporate talking heads stuff, a couple of headset mics, a handheld or two, a podium and a bit of playback for the breaks. Most of this has been on an LS9, which hardly taxes it's capabilities, so I haven't really had to do much digging around on the mixer to get the job done. This past Saturday however was a different situation, a Corporate Christmas Party with full band, DJ, a couple of MCs, main PA setup and L/R delays to cover the width of the room. Since I hadn't used the LS9 in a full setup like this, I decided to pickup the mixer a day earlier and spend some time with it in my garage. Following my usual habits on my 01v96 I returned the mixer to factory settings by recalling scene 01 "Initial data" and checked all the patching. Everything seemed ok, all the inputs worked, Mix1 through 5 were configured for the stage monitors and I could see output levels on the Meters screen. Following the default settings Mix 13 was routed to Effect Rack 5 and Mix 14 to Effect Rack 6 and I could see levels going into the Racks and the outputs returning to Channels 29,30,31 & 32 as I wanted. The Main L/R outputs were also showing level, so I thought I was in good shape. At the show, with everything built and powered up I grabbed my Talkback mic and started going through the wedges and mains. Everything worked but I had a very noticeable delay on the Right main output. Very distinct, very annoying and utterly unusable. I checked through my patching and traced the signal flow as best as my limited experience with this board would allow, but still couldn't find anything. Eventually I repatched the rig to mono and ran the show on the Left output. Once the band was playing and I had their mix settled I started going through the signal flow some more and realized that the default setup has Mix13, 14, 15 and 16 going to Effect racks 5,6,7 & 8 respectively. And what was setup in Effect Rack 8, being fed by Mix 16, aka the Right main output? A 250ms delay. Beyond the fact that Yamaha's terminology, everything is a Mix, rather than the traditional Aux's and L/R busses, is confusing - why in the hell would the default factory setting send the Right Main output through a 250ms delay? Something tells me I can't be the first to stumble across this gem, but a search doesn't reveal any other posts on a similar subject. Along these same lines, can someone enlighten me on the relationship of Mix15 and Mix16 and the L/R Mains. They appear to be mostly one and the same, but there are a few places where they are not quite the same. Ciao Simon [/QUOTE]

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