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<blockquote data-quote="Matthew Merkle" data-source="post: 113709" data-attributes="member: 6498">Re: NAMMI&#039;d love to see where you get the idea they&#039;re making so much money. Keep in mind they have to pay for their own food and lodging on-site, which usually eats up almost all of their money. If California is too expensive for whatever reason, there&#039;s only... 47 other states that could do the work. Made in USA != Made in California. And you bring up the Wal-Mart situation. This is exactly why you need to do more research, because it&#039;s that sort of dismissal that keeps these people in slavery. They were in uproar over losing hours because of how little they&#039;re already being paid. They didn&#039;t get a pay raise with those cut hours, they just cut hours. When you&#039;re making money below poverty level, living in shacks, where your take-home money is so small that you can never progress, move away, take a break, or otherwise... of course they&#039;re going to be mad. All this did was just institutionalize those workers further into believing that it could be worse. This is NEVER about the culture. No culture would willingly accept such terrible working conditions if they were truly offered an alternative. They have never been offered such an alternative. No, instead, they&#039;re told &quot;either work these hours, under these conditions, or we&#039;ll replace you with someone who will&quot;. After all, the moment you throw culture into it, you&#039;re just making excuses.Anyway, I will agree this has little do with the thread, so if you still disagree with this statement, feel free to take it to PM. It just made me very uncomfortable to hear about such cavalier attitude over Chinese labor considering what it&#039;s really like over there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Matthew Merkle, post: 113709, member: 6498"] Re: NAMM I'd love to see where you get the idea they're making so much money. Keep in mind they have to pay for their own food and lodging on-site, which usually eats up almost all of their money. If California is too expensive for whatever reason, there's only... 47 other states that could do the work. Made in USA != Made in California. And you bring up the Wal-Mart situation. This is exactly why you need to do more research, because it's that sort of dismissal that keeps these people in slavery. They were in uproar over losing hours because of how little they're already being paid. They didn't get a pay raise with those cut hours, they just cut hours. When you're making money below poverty level, living in shacks, where your take-home money is so small that you can never progress, move away, take a break, or otherwise... of course they're going to be mad. All this did was just institutionalize those workers further into believing that it could be worse. This is NEVER about the culture. No culture would willingly accept such terrible working conditions if they were truly offered an alternative. They have never been offered such an alternative. No, instead, they're told "either work these hours, under these conditions, or we'll replace you with someone who will". After all, the moment you throw culture into it, you're just making excuses. Anyway, I will agree this has little do with the thread, so if you still disagree with this statement, feel free to take it to PM. It just made me very uncomfortable to hear about such cavalier attitude over Chinese labor considering what it's really like over there. [/QUOTE]

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