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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 116295" data-attributes="member: 2826">Re: STP vs. UTPThanks for the reply, Jan.While I&#039;m not immediately persuaded that the X32 is smaller and lighter than all Midas products, and that that will make the difference between ESD problems and ESD no problems, I don&#039;t know them as well as you do and so will take what you say at face value. I guess the stage boxes are certainly smaller, S16 vs. whatever. As was pointed out in another forum this morning, given the price point of the X32 family it would be much better if it were able to operate with cable that is cheaper and more importantly, more commonly available rather than a cable that you, Behringer, have to have made yourself to be sure to get the right one.I&#039;m happy to hear more specifics about the upcoming cable, though. Is it only available in 50 meter lengths, on a drum, and in single runs? I have no use for drums, as I tape my snake cable together with an analog 4 or more pair, as well as the AC supply to FOH so that one pull gets it all. I also want to run multiple Ethercon runs to FOH, both as a backup and also because there are situations that need more than one Ethercon run.Thanks again,DanEdit: And if you&#039;re saying that mass is the only factor, why did the XL8 initially have problems and then not have problems? Its mass didn&#039;t change.If more mass is better, why can&#039;t I just attach a chunk of aluminum to the bottom of an S16 chassis and have an immediate solution? Or enough S16&#039;s racked together to create an object the size of the Midas stage box?The Pro 1 weighs 47.5 pounds, and the X32 is 45.4 pounds. Not much mass difference there, but one is OK with UTP and the other requires STP.Sorry, need more explanation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 116295, member: 2826"] Re: STP vs. UTP Thanks for the reply, Jan. While I'm not immediately persuaded that the X32 is smaller and lighter than all Midas products, and that that will make the difference between ESD problems and ESD no problems, I don't know them as well as you do and so will take what you say at face value. I guess the stage boxes are certainly smaller, S16 vs. whatever. As was pointed out in another forum this morning, given the price point of the X32 family it would be much better if it were able to operate with cable that is cheaper and more importantly, more commonly available rather than a cable that you, Behringer, have to have made yourself to be sure to get the right one. I'm happy to hear more specifics about the upcoming cable, though. Is it only available in 50 meter lengths, on a drum, and in single runs? I have no use for drums, as I tape my snake cable together with an analog 4 or more pair, as well as the AC supply to FOH so that one pull gets it all. I also want to run multiple Ethercon runs to FOH, both as a backup and also because there are situations that need more than one Ethercon run. Thanks again, Dan [B]Edit:[/B] And if you're saying that mass is the only factor, why did the XL8 initially have problems and then not have problems? Its mass didn't change. If more mass is better, why can't I just attach a chunk of aluminum to the bottom of an S16 chassis and have an immediate solution? Or enough S16's racked together to create an object the size of the Midas stage box? The Pro 1 weighs 47.5 pounds, and the X32 is 45.4 pounds. Not much mass difference there, but one is OK with UTP and the other requires STP. Sorry, need more explanation. [/QUOTE]

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