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<blockquote data-quote="Tim McCulloch" data-source="post: 116545" data-attributes="member: 67">Re: STP vs. UTPAnd I have a story that appears to be opposite your experiences...Last month we had a group come through that had a pair of S16 on stage, X32 out front.&nbsp; They had a single 175ft run of Rapco DuraCat 6e taped to 150ft run of 16ga extension cords.&nbsp; While helping the BE run his &quot;snake&quot; I asked him if they ever had ESD-induced dropouts.&nbsp; No, he said.&nbsp; Never?&nbsp; Nope.The stage set included some nice, big rugs and a centrally located &#039;bitch mic&#039; for the players to communicate with the ME.Part way into the set there is a brief interruption in audio.&nbsp; BE asks &quot;what the hell was that, power spike?&quot;&nbsp; Uh... &quot;remember when I asked you about ESD?&quot;&nbsp; A few minutes later it happens again, but this time we notice the bass player standing at the bitch mic.&nbsp; After the show, Mr. Bass mentions to the ME that there was a lot of static on stage that night.&nbsp; BE confirms that he found 2 sync errors of AES50 in a console log.&nbsp; He&#039;s ordered STP...So when I helped pull the snake out, I notice that the extension cord is plugged into the same quad box that the S16s are powered from.&nbsp; I can&#039;t verify that all the grounding in the quad box is 100% (not mine, didn&#039;t build it, etc).&nbsp; Presuming that it is, common &amp; proximate grounding of the connected devices didn&#039;t seem to alleviate the problem. FWIW, I had my S16/X32 hooked up in the shop with 150&#039; of UTP, no Ethercons, had personal walking around static build up.&nbsp; No drop outs in casual use, setting up templates and listening to the EQ and EFX.&nbsp; Then I saw the spark device in the videos; my experiences were pretty much as documented on Youtube, sometimes even a single ESD hit would cause loss of sync, sometimes it took 3 or 4, but eventually it always happened.&nbsp; My setup was powered from a single quad box with known-good grounding.&nbsp; STP with ground-bonded Ethercon shells seems to prevent the issue.Per, I&#039;m glad your setup works and I&#039;d really like to have the same results, but so far it hasn&#039;t worked out that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim McCulloch, post: 116545, member: 67"] Re: STP vs. UTP And I have a story that appears to be opposite your experiences... Last month we had a group come through that had a pair of S16 on stage, X32 out front. They had a single 175ft run of Rapco DuraCat 6e taped to 150ft run of 16ga extension cords. While helping the BE run his "snake" I asked him if they ever had ESD-induced dropouts. No, he said. Never? Nope. The stage set included some nice, big rugs and a centrally located 'bitch mic' for the players to communicate with the ME. Part way into the set there is a brief interruption in audio. BE asks "what the hell was that, power spike?" Uh... "remember when I asked you about ESD?" A few minutes later it happens again, but this time we notice the bass player standing at the bitch mic. After the show, Mr. Bass mentions to the ME that there was a lot of static on stage that night. BE confirms that he found 2 sync errors of AES50 in a console log. He's ordered STP... So when I helped pull the snake out, I notice that the extension cord is plugged into the same quad box that the S16s are powered from. I can't verify that all the grounding in the quad box is 100% (not mine, didn't build it, etc). Presuming that it is, common & proximate grounding of the connected devices didn't seem to alleviate the problem. FWIW, I had my S16/X32 hooked up in the shop with 150' of UTP, no Ethercons, had personal walking around static build up. No drop outs in casual use, setting up templates and listening to the EQ and EFX. Then I saw the spark device in the videos; my experiences were pretty much as documented on Youtube, sometimes even a single ESD hit would cause loss of sync, sometimes it took 3 or 4, but eventually it always happened. My setup was powered from a single quad box with known-good grounding. STP with ground-bonded Ethercon shells seems to prevent the issue. Per, I'm glad your setup works and I'd really like to have the same results, but so far it hasn't worked out that way. [/QUOTE]

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