Hello again!
I have made some big changes in the last couple of months and things are going better than I had hoped but there is an issue I am trying to track down.
About 2 months ago we jumped into the digital console thing with a StudioLive 24 and I have to say that the thing impresses me every time I use it. Just a couple weeks we moved to wireless IEMs for everyone – MiPro808s. I was amazed that the first night on the IEMs everyone but the lead singer used them all night. I kept the wedges on separate mixes on stage and expected the ears to be sort of an experiment. That same night most of the folks in the band were also chomping at the bit to try Q-Mix which lets them run their own monitor mix from an iPhone so I set up the wireless for it and figured we’d give it a shot. I also went ahead and put VSL Remote on an iPad so I could try that out too.
Everything worked – the iPad and iPhones connected to VSL and were able to run things but the iPhones kept disconnecting – the iPad was rock solid. The Musos kind of struggled with it – every time they wanted to make a change they had to connect first and sometimes they would get disconnected in the middle of what they were doing. Since it was the first night on ears and the first night with Q-Mix we didn’t spend much time with it. The next gig we spent a little more time at sound-check with Q-Mix and it seemed a bit more stable but still not rock solid. They played with it through the gig but it still wasn’t really usable.
After that I posted some questions on the Presonus forums and almost immediately received 2 replies asking if anyone in the band used Line6 for their wireless guitars. Sure enough both guitarists use Line6 and the Relay models are digital at 2.4GHz. just like wifi. One reply said that they had to stop using iPhones and Q-Mix altogether and the other guy said they dumped the Line6 stuff and went with analog wireless for the guitars. Looking deeper I found that apparently the iPhones and iPods, etc. are 802.11G devices which only use 2.4GHz but the iPads are dual band and can use 802.11n at 5GHz. If the issue is related to the Line6 gear, that could explain why the iPad is stable but the iPhones are not. The access point I’m using for this is an Apple Airport which is also dual band.
Our bass player spent an intimate evening with Google and came up with a wireless channel chart hoping that if we set everything to his chart the Line6 stuff and the iPhone wifi can coexist. The chart looks great but it assumes that what Line6 calls channel 1 coincides with what 802.11 calls channel 1. I am skeptical because although they both operate in the 2.4GHz spectrum they are 2 entirely different kinds of communication. The wifi for the iPhones is 2 way Ethernet (essentially) data traffic but the Line6 is 1 way streaming audio. Also Line6 isnt bound by the 802.11 standard since its not wifi.
So after all that the questions are;
Does anyone know if the Line6 channel numbers coincide with 802.11?
Has anyone dealt with this and found a solution?
Thanks all!
I have made some big changes in the last couple of months and things are going better than I had hoped but there is an issue I am trying to track down.
About 2 months ago we jumped into the digital console thing with a StudioLive 24 and I have to say that the thing impresses me every time I use it. Just a couple weeks we moved to wireless IEMs for everyone – MiPro808s. I was amazed that the first night on the IEMs everyone but the lead singer used them all night. I kept the wedges on separate mixes on stage and expected the ears to be sort of an experiment. That same night most of the folks in the band were also chomping at the bit to try Q-Mix which lets them run their own monitor mix from an iPhone so I set up the wireless for it and figured we’d give it a shot. I also went ahead and put VSL Remote on an iPad so I could try that out too.
Everything worked – the iPad and iPhones connected to VSL and were able to run things but the iPhones kept disconnecting – the iPad was rock solid. The Musos kind of struggled with it – every time they wanted to make a change they had to connect first and sometimes they would get disconnected in the middle of what they were doing. Since it was the first night on ears and the first night with Q-Mix we didn’t spend much time with it. The next gig we spent a little more time at sound-check with Q-Mix and it seemed a bit more stable but still not rock solid. They played with it through the gig but it still wasn’t really usable.
After that I posted some questions on the Presonus forums and almost immediately received 2 replies asking if anyone in the band used Line6 for their wireless guitars. Sure enough both guitarists use Line6 and the Relay models are digital at 2.4GHz. just like wifi. One reply said that they had to stop using iPhones and Q-Mix altogether and the other guy said they dumped the Line6 stuff and went with analog wireless for the guitars. Looking deeper I found that apparently the iPhones and iPods, etc. are 802.11G devices which only use 2.4GHz but the iPads are dual band and can use 802.11n at 5GHz. If the issue is related to the Line6 gear, that could explain why the iPad is stable but the iPhones are not. The access point I’m using for this is an Apple Airport which is also dual band.
Our bass player spent an intimate evening with Google and came up with a wireless channel chart hoping that if we set everything to his chart the Line6 stuff and the iPhone wifi can coexist. The chart looks great but it assumes that what Line6 calls channel 1 coincides with what 802.11 calls channel 1. I am skeptical because although they both operate in the 2.4GHz spectrum they are 2 entirely different kinds of communication. The wifi for the iPhones is 2 way Ethernet (essentially) data traffic but the Line6 is 1 way streaming audio. Also Line6 isnt bound by the 802.11 standard since its not wifi.
So after all that the questions are;
Does anyone know if the Line6 channel numbers coincide with 802.11?
Has anyone dealt with this and found a solution?
Thanks all!
