Yamaha 01V96 Cascade with MY16-AUD cards

Michael John

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Hi,

I'm setting up a pair of Yamaha 01V96 consoles to run in Cascade. The example setup in the manual uses ADAT connections - both on board and on ADAT slot cards - to move AUXs, BUSs, the stereo BUS and solo signals from the slave to the master console. The slave (transmitting) console becomes the clock master and the master (receiving) console sync's it's clock to either the slot or ADAT input.

Rather than using ADAT cards in the slots, I'd like to use MY16-AUD (Dante) cards but this raises a clocking question. As I understand with Dante, both consoles are clocking off the Dante network - their slots - and should be in lock step, however also connecting the on-board ADAT from slave to master consoles means that the ADAT link is running asynchronously and could potentially glitch.

Has anyone ever tried this?

Best,
Michael
 
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Re: Yamaha 01V96 Cascade with MY16-AUD cards

FWIW I couldn't get hold of a 2nd MY-AUD card but I was able to connect the master and slave over ADAT (both directions). The slave clocks off the master, and the master from it's MY16-AUD card. (The MY16-AUD card is feeding the FOH amps.)

Stereo, solo and Bus8 (sub) is cascading from slave to master. Aux's 1-6 are cascading from the master to the slave, and the slave is feeding all the foldback over analog.

I've gotta say cascade is awesome. And from the routing configuration in the consoles, it appears that it could be done with as many consoles as you choose. (Subject to using up all the digital headroom and clipping the buss's and aux's.)

Best,
Michael
 
Re: Yamaha 01V96 Cascade with MY16-AUD cards

FWIW I couldn't get hold of a 2nd MY-AUD card but I was able to connect the master and slave over ADAT (both directions). The slave clocks off the master, and the master from it's MY16-AUD card. (The MY16-AUD card is feeding the FOH amps.)

Stereo, solo and Bus8 (sub) is cascading from slave to master. Aux's 1-6 are cascading from the master to the slave, and the slave is feeding all the foldback over analog.

I've gotta say cascade is awesome. And from the routing configuration in the consoles, it appears that it could be done with as many consoles as you choose. (Subject to using up all the digital headroom and clipping the buss's and aux's.)

Best,
Michael

i've cascaded multiple 01V96s many times, always with good results. given the way Yamaha implements cascading, there are many different ways to accomplish the cascade. I see you've already hit on the idea of cascading in both directions to maximize your output options. Often people think of cascading only being in one direction, so you end up with not enough physical outputs on the 'master' desk, while the outputs on the slave go unused.

FWIW, i think if you did actually use an MY16-AUD card in both desks and clocked both desks off the Dante network, everything shouldould fall into place quite nicely, even is you used ADAT between the desks. I've done similar things many times where two or more digital pieces were slaved to one clock source, and also interconnected. Works just fine.
 
Re: Yamaha 01V96 Cascade with MY16-AUD cards

I have also cascaded many 01v96s - a pair of them was my large system for the better part of 9 years. I'm curious if the different latencies of ADAT vs. Dante would matter. Intuitively it seems like that shouldn't work; all Dante would be fine, and obviously I've tested ADAT many times, but not sure how using both at the same time would work.