Saw this pic and was flooded with a zillion thoughts, none of which were good. Just had to share.
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Bass cab madness
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Re: Bass cab madness
Anytime a musician goes out of the way to point the their rig at their own head rather than at me, I'm appreciative.
Anytime a musician goes out of the way to point the their rig at their own head rather than at me, I'm appreciative.
Re: Bass cab madness
Reminds me of an inversion of the 1997 U2 Pop Mart PA.
That was a big, heavy PA, sixty 400 pound 45 x 45 inch Clair S4 making up the "pumpkin".
Bet the bass player can "feel" it when he steps back into the focal point of his Orange Crush..
Reminds me of an inversion of the 1997 U2 Pop Mart PA.
That was a big, heavy PA, sixty 400 pound 45 x 45 inch Clair S4 making up the "pumpkin".
Bet the bass player can "feel" it when he steps back into the focal point of his Orange Crush..
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Re: Bass cab madness
There were articles about how much better it was supposed to sound-since it was a mono system and didn't have the interference of stereo rigs.
I also seem to remember that it was during one of the dates (they were using servodrive subs) that Tom Danley was a guest and at one point in the show-the band was not playing-the crowd was quiet and Bono was talking. he could only make out one out of a couple of words.
He started thinking to himself-"why" and "there must be a better way". This lead to the current products-it took awhile---------------------
I thought that U2 rig was at least a decade earlier. I seem to remember it back in the mid 80's-but could be wrong.
There were articles about how much better it was supposed to sound-since it was a mono system and didn't have the interference of stereo rigs.
I also seem to remember that it was during one of the dates (they were using servodrive subs) that Tom Danley was a guest and at one point in the show-the band was not playing-the crowd was quiet and Bono was talking. he could only make out one out of a couple of words.
He started thinking to himself-"why" and "there must be a better way". This lead to the current products-it took awhile---------------------
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Time flies, the U2 tours previous to the 1997 U2 Pop Mart PA just used the usual left/right Clair S4 flying bumpers.
"Better sound" was a relative term, even though the "Pumpkin" was roughly a portion of a sphere, it still did not radiate as from a single point source.
The "Pumpkin" certainly was an improved S4 deployment, but was still turd polishing in terms of what is possible from a system designed for even coverage rather than how many drivers can fill the front of a 45 x 45 x 22.5" deep cabinet.
In 2000 got to hear the new (compared to 1970's boxes) Clair line array used for Sting one night in August, and the old S4 rig two nights later with the Who at the same outdoor venue.
Both great bands and crews, but the Clair line array did the one thing I had never heard in 30 years from an S4 rig- even frequency response and SPL coverage for (nearly) every seat in the audience.
Even though the Who show was only 2 days after Sting, it was like a time tunnel to the "bad old days" of coverage, just like I remembered them :^).
Ivan,
Time flies, the U2 tours previous to the 1997 U2 Pop Mart PA just used the usual left/right Clair S4 flying bumpers.
"Better sound" was a relative term, even though the "Pumpkin" was roughly a portion of a sphere, it still did not radiate as from a single point source.
The "Pumpkin" certainly was an improved S4 deployment, but was still turd polishing in terms of what is possible from a system designed for even coverage rather than how many drivers can fill the front of a 45 x 45 x 22.5" deep cabinet.
In 2000 got to hear the new (compared to 1970's boxes) Clair line array used for Sting one night in August, and the old S4 rig two nights later with the Who at the same outdoor venue.
Both great bands and crews, but the Clair line array did the one thing I had never heard in 30 years from an S4 rig- even frequency response and SPL coverage for (nearly) every seat in the audience.
Even though the Who show was only 2 days after Sting, it was like a time tunnel to the "bad old days" of coverage, just like I remembered them :^).
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I "thought" I first read about the U2 "pumpkin" while at my Grandparents kitchen table-reading a newspaper of all things.
They passed away in the 80's-hence my "thoughts". I admit I could be wrong-it won't be the first (or last) time.
I was just going on my memory and "time location".
I "thought" I first read about the U2 "pumpkin" while at my Grandparents kitchen table-reading a newspaper of all things.
They passed away in the 80's-hence my "thoughts". I admit I could be wrong-it won't be the first (or last) time.
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If I am not totally mistaken this was from their concert just a few days ago. The band is called "Die Ärzte" (translates to "The doctors") and is s very successful punk rock band in Germany, who have been doing this for 30 years. The show was on a former airport in Berlin in front of about 40,000 people so stage wash was probably not a primary concern.
They sold out two days in a row with their strongest competitors playing the day before at the same location.
If I am not totally mistaken this was from their concert just a few days ago. The band is called "Die Ärzte" (translates to "The doctors") and is s very successful punk rock band in Germany, who have been doing this for 30 years. The show was on a former airport in Berlin in front of about 40,000 people so stage wash was probably not a primary concern.
They sold out two days in a row with their strongest competitors playing the day before at the same location.