10,000 Year Clock

Jeff Williams

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http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/10000-year-clock/all/1


Really should read the main article, but here's a snip:


For Bezos, the founder of Amazon.com, the clock is not just the ultimate prestige timepiece. It’s a symbol of the power of long-term thinking. His hope is that building it will change the way humanity thinks about time, encouraging our distant descendants to take a longer view than we have.

For starters, Bezos himself is taking a far, far longer view than most Fortune 500 CEOs.

“Over the lifetime of this clock, the United States won’t exist,” Bezos tells me. “Whole civilizations will rise and fall. New systems of government will be invented. You can’t imagine the world — no one can — that we’re trying to get this clock to pass through.”

To help achieve his mission of fostering long-term thinking, Bezos last week launched a website to publicize his clock. People who want to visit the clock once it’s ready can put their names on a waiting list on the site — although they’ll have to be prepared to wait, as the clock won’t be complete for years.

It’s a monumental undertaking that Bezos and the crew of people designing and building the clock repeatedly compare to the Egyptian pyramids. And as with the pharaohs, it takes a certain amount of ego — even hubris — to consider building such a monument. But it’s also an unparalleled engineering problem, challenging its makers to think about how to keep a machine intact, operational and accurate over a time span longer than most human-made objects have even existed.

Consider this: 10,000 years ago, our ancestors had barely begun making the transition from hunting and gathering to simple agriculture, and had just figured out how to cultivate gourds to use as bottles. What if those people had built a machine, set it in motion, and it was still running today? Would we understand how to use it? What would it tell us about them?

And would it change the way we think about our own future?
 
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He clearly has too much money and too much time on his hands....

JR

+1

This 10,000 year clock will never work properly for 10,000 years.

He should spend his money on developing something more valuable like ... an electronic dog language translator....or windows that are self cleaning.....or hotdog bun packages that feature 10 buns (instead of the usual 8) to match the standard 10 hotdog package.

Hammer
 
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Awww, c'mon, that is way cool. Maybe I hang out with too many scientists doing non-commercial research, but I think the idea of building something that can survive even 1,000 years, let alone 10,000, is incredible.

Charlie's post made me hungry, though.
 
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....or hotdog bun packages that feature 10 buns (instead of the usual 8) to match the standard 10 hotdog package.

If you buy good hot dogs, like the premium all beef ones from Ball Park or Oscar Meyer, they come in packages of 8. Only the cheapo Bar-S and store brands come in packs of 10. (The Hebrew National hot dogs are pretty good, but they only come in packs of 7).
 
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Awww, c'mon, that is way cool. Maybe I hang out with too many scientists doing non-commercial research, but I think the idea of building something that can survive even 1,000 years, let alone 10,000, is incredible.

What are you talking about? We make stuff that will last 1,000 years all the time, like beverage bottles, the plastic things that six packs of pop and beer come attached to, kids toys, Twinkies. And I'm pretty sure that most of our nuclear waste will still be here in 10,000 years.
 
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If you buy good hot dogs, like the premium all beef ones from Ball Park or Oscar Meyer, they come in packages of 8. Only the cheapo Bar-S and store brands come in packs of 10. (The Hebrew National hot dogs are pretty good, but they only come in packs of 7).

I suppose it's a regional thing....as we can get hotdogs in packages of 4, for the premium "pareve" all beef Hebrew National (no 7 packs that I've seen) and our other local brands ...Kowalski, Kobeck's, Peschke's, (notice a trend here? hehe) and Hygrade all come in 10 packs.

If you stop in a Kowalski store you can buy them by the link "with natural casings".

and... the clock may exist in 10,000 years, but...would it still keep accurate time?

Cheers,
Hammer

ps. time is only relevant on earth.

added: Bennett....sending a care package for your munchies.
 
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it is waste thanks to our omnipotent congress passing laws that made it so(however many years ago that was). Also fear mongering by the media and a lack of understanding by the average person.

The biggest problem I see with this lasting 10,000 years is people. Whats going to stop someone in the future from deciding that the materials in the clock would be better suited for something other than one man's attempt at a lasting impact on society. This becomes especially true if exotic materials are used in it that become very scarce and very important for future processes that have yet to be either feasible or discovered.
 
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The biggest problem I see with this lasting 10,000 years is people. Whats going to stop someone in the future from deciding that the materials in the clock would be better suited for something other than one man's attempt at a lasting impact on society. This becomes especially true if exotic materials are used in it that become very scarce and very important for future processes that have yet to be either feasible or discovered.

Just get it put on the national register of historic places. The local board will make sure nobody can ever do anything to it, ever, even if it's falling apart and needs restoration.
 
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Just get it put on the national register of historic places. The local board will make sure nobody can ever do anything to it, ever, even if it's falling apart and needs restoration.

Agreed. The Vatican if full of useless artifacts made of gold and precious jewels, some of it dating back to the earliest days of the church. Much of it is priceless. I don't see anyone melting it down or selling the stuff off anytime soon.

Greg
 
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Agreed. The Vatican if full of useless artifacts made of gold and precious jewels, some of it dating back to the earliest days of the church. Much of it is priceless. I don't see anyone melting it down or selling the stuff off anytime soon.

Greg

That's because it's in the best constructed vaults in the World, and under the best trained security personnel, also, in the World....

Hammer
 
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That's because it's... under the best trained security personnel, also, in the World.

I don't know about that. The Vatican hasn't had to defend itself in one hell of a long time. I suspect the Israelis probably have the best security personnel in the world right now.

I mean, look at these guys:

Swiss_Guard.jpg

They have swords. Swords!
 
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The MP5 is not small, there is no way those soldiers have on one them.

Hello Bennett,
This confused me for some time. One short sentence, an easy read, passes spell check.
Took me about 10 times through to see why it looked odd to me.

Jack

It's because on is one, and one is none.
 
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I don't know about that. The Vatican hasn't had to defend itself in one hell of a long time. I suspect the Israelis probably have the best security personnel in the world right now.

I mean, look at these guys:

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They have swords. Swords!

Hello,

Yeah, these guys are mostly for show...with their harlequin costumes. But, the REAL security force is there, out of sight, and, they're a serious bunch, self-sacrificing, super-hero types. They don't really advertise the additional forces. Their only mission is to protect the Vatican's treasures. There is another detail that handles the Pope's security.

Again, getting to a vault would be a tremendous effort...they're deep underground.

Hammer
 
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Hello,

Yeah, these guys are mostly for show...with their harlequin costumes. But, the REAL security force is there, out of sight, and, they're a serious bunch, self-sacrificing, super-hero types. They don't really advertise the additional forces. Their only mission is to protect the Vatican's treasures. There is another detail that handles the Pope's security.

Again, getting to a vault would be a tremendous effort...they're deep underground.

Hammer

I like how the thread has veered to, "How to best get at the Vatican's treasures".

Jack
 
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I like how the thread has veered to, "How to best get at the Vatican's treasures".

Jack

Nah... it was in regards to how long some attraction, curiousity, monument, or artifact can remain unmolested by either vandals of thieves. The idea to protect these types of property have been around a long time. The Kings of the past have built temples and pyramids with elaborate passages that were hard for miscreants to find or open after they were closed.

But...they were always ransacked. Today's technologies can both make it harder and easier to protect treasures....I suppose it depends on the motivation of some.

Hammer