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<blockquote data-quote="Silas Pradetto" data-source="post: 23062" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Re: 12v Eco project sound system</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I really hate to be the harbinger of disappointment, but I was going to say the exact same thing. Home-building speakers is almost NEVER a cheaper option than going with something off-the-shelf, for a whole pile of reasons:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How are you going to design them? Without knowledge of horn and box physics, you're not going to just stumble upon a design that sounds good. That's why JBL, EAW, and all those other companies have people like Dave Gunness doing it- it truly does take a genius to design a good speaker. And of course, good designs and designers aren't cheap.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How are you going to build them? Without a dedicated woodshop and premium wood, the look, fit, and finish of anything you make in your backyard with a circular saw is going to suffer. The cabinets are going to look very 'homebuilt', and they will last nowhere near as long as a production, CNC cabinet.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What are you going to buy, did you actually budget this out? As Jeff mentioned, the little things really add up. Hardware could cost you hundreds of dollars for a couple speakers, when you factor in those wheels, handles, screws, washers, T-nuts, etc. Also, good sound usually requires good drivers, and good drivers cost hundreds of dollars.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How are you going to tune your custom speakers? Unless you're a Smaart measurement professional with a big outdoor space or a quasi-anechoic chamber, it's not going to happen. Especially if you intend to use a passive crossover, someone has to design that to work with the drivers and the box- again, not easy.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What do you do when you don't want them anymore? You really can't sell custom speakers, unless you're Clair. Even LAB subs have almost zero resale value.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">On top of the lack of resale value, you also have no value to any potential customer that puts faith in a name brand. Virtually anyone with a clue wouldn't hire someone with custom speakers, because they know how lacking the homebuilt stuff usually is.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Are you considering your time cost? The above mentioned things take a LONG time to do, especially if you consider you're only making a small batch of speakers. There is no ROI to spending a hundred hours to build only four speakers.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Too many people think 'I can buy a bunch of speakers, throw them in a box, and save money and have good sound'. I hate to break it to those that think that; it's not going to happen.</p><p></p><p>Large companies like JBL benefit from economies of scale. Because they do things in huge batches, with custom drivers, and they already pay an engineering team, they can afford to design a decent speaker for those budget-conscious consumers and sell it for cheap. Think of the JRX line. They really aren't that bad, for costing only a couple hundred bucks. And I <em>guarantee </em>that no one could build their own speaker that beats a JRX for the same amount of money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silas Pradetto, post: 23062, member: 34"] Re: 12v Eco project sound system I really hate to be the harbinger of disappointment, but I was going to say the exact same thing. Home-building speakers is almost NEVER a cheaper option than going with something off-the-shelf, for a whole pile of reasons: [LIST] [*]How are you going to design them? Without knowledge of horn and box physics, you're not going to just stumble upon a design that sounds good. That's why JBL, EAW, and all those other companies have people like Dave Gunness doing it- it truly does take a genius to design a good speaker. And of course, good designs and designers aren't cheap. [*]How are you going to build them? Without a dedicated woodshop and premium wood, the look, fit, and finish of anything you make in your backyard with a circular saw is going to suffer. The cabinets are going to look very 'homebuilt', and they will last nowhere near as long as a production, CNC cabinet. [*]What are you going to buy, did you actually budget this out? As Jeff mentioned, the little things really add up. Hardware could cost you hundreds of dollars for a couple speakers, when you factor in those wheels, handles, screws, washers, T-nuts, etc. Also, good sound usually requires good drivers, and good drivers cost hundreds of dollars. [*]How are you going to tune your custom speakers? Unless you're a Smaart measurement professional with a big outdoor space or a quasi-anechoic chamber, it's not going to happen. Especially if you intend to use a passive crossover, someone has to design that to work with the drivers and the box- again, not easy. [*]What do you do when you don't want them anymore? You really can't sell custom speakers, unless you're Clair. Even LAB subs have almost zero resale value. [*]On top of the lack of resale value, you also have no value to any potential customer that puts faith in a name brand. Virtually anyone with a clue wouldn't hire someone with custom speakers, because they know how lacking the homebuilt stuff usually is. [*]Are you considering your time cost? The above mentioned things take a LONG time to do, especially if you consider you're only making a small batch of speakers. There is no ROI to spending a hundred hours to build only four speakers. [/LIST] Too many people think 'I can buy a bunch of speakers, throw them in a box, and save money and have good sound'. I hate to break it to those that think that; it's not going to happen. Large companies like JBL benefit from economies of scale. Because they do things in huge batches, with custom drivers, and they already pay an engineering team, they can afford to design a decent speaker for those budget-conscious consumers and sell it for cheap. Think of the JRX line. They really aren't that bad, for costing only a couple hundred bucks. And I [I]guarantee [/I]that no one could build their own speaker that beats a JRX for the same amount of money. [/QUOTE]
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