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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Wilkinson" data-source="post: 149090" data-attributes="member: 8989"><p>Re: 60 Degree DIY Mid Hi</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hi Don, the latency is about 75ms. </p><p>But this is an overkill first run at, ...... 'see what can be done at the limit of the processor'.</p><p>I mean I'm using maximum taps, and reaching into steepest x-over topology....</p><p></p><p>So there is a lot of room to cut back latency. I think <strong>alot</strong>.....and without changing phase or amplitude curves much.</p><p>At this point, getting a feel for the cutbacks available, I'm guessing optimal sound quality vs latency, lies in the 25 -30 ms range. </p><p>I'm thinking this gets phase flat on the mids down to 80hz, and subs from 80 up... IOW near perfect summation and flat phase from 80hz up...while needing to let natural sub delay below 80 be what it may be...</p><p></p><p>Only more testing will tell...</p><p>Maybe 25-30 ms is still too much for live work?</p><p>That will be a shame...cause if the sound quality at 25-30ms stays like what I've got now...damn, we want it.</p><p>I've simply never heard recorded music like this. Never heard so much definition at all frequencies, particularly in the sub-to-main transition region.</p><p>I always knew the DIY had outstanding transient response...never knew it could go all the way down to the sub, with the same clarity and balls...just my lack of tuning ability really...rePhase rocks.</p><p></p><p>Hey Peter, thanks again for sharing such a great design. </p><p>And Don, thank you for your invaluable contributions as well.</p><p>Mark be a happy camper ... He have most excellent sound and be learning tons <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Wilkinson, post: 149090, member: 8989"] Re: 60 Degree DIY Mid Hi Hi Don, the latency is about 75ms. But this is an overkill first run at, ...... 'see what can be done at the limit of the processor'. I mean I'm using maximum taps, and reaching into steepest x-over topology.... So there is a lot of room to cut back latency. I think [B]alot[/B].....and without changing phase or amplitude curves much. At this point, getting a feel for the cutbacks available, I'm guessing optimal sound quality vs latency, lies in the 25 -30 ms range. I'm thinking this gets phase flat on the mids down to 80hz, and subs from 80 up... IOW near perfect summation and flat phase from 80hz up...while needing to let natural sub delay below 80 be what it may be... Only more testing will tell... Maybe 25-30 ms is still too much for live work? That will be a shame...cause if the sound quality at 25-30ms stays like what I've got now...damn, we want it. I've simply never heard recorded music like this. Never heard so much definition at all frequencies, particularly in the sub-to-main transition region. I always knew the DIY had outstanding transient response...never knew it could go all the way down to the sub, with the same clarity and balls...just my lack of tuning ability really...rePhase rocks. Hey Peter, thanks again for sharing such a great design. And Don, thank you for your invaluable contributions as well. Mark be a happy camper ... He have most excellent sound and be learning tons :) [/QUOTE]
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