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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Wilkinson" data-source="post: 203821" data-attributes="member: 8989">Hi Johnny, I&#039;ll try to answer....Yes, I think you could build the box and tune it by ear with the info that&#039;s contained in both the DIY60 and 90 threads. And certainly with forum help on any particular issues that might arise. This is assuming you use plans that are close to any of the ones posted and the specified drivers.&nbsp; Ears rule....The horn and BMS coax are easy, there&#039;s no variance there....anybody&#039;s x-over settings HF to VHF should work. Easiest of all, use the passive crossover.Everybody&#039;s mid section is probably a little different, but probably not too different to start with XO and eq settings already found in the threads, and ear it out from there. Timing may be the trickiest, but I got by with Bink&#039;s test cd and a measuring tape for years before smaart. There&#039;s also freeware REW.The mindsp route is great, but it has two significant drawbacks.&nbsp; First is the consumer I/O (single ended vs balanced), and second is the consumer input and output levels. Both of these have to be thought through to use the minidsp boxes.I guess there is also the issue of trusting a show to the whole conglomeration...However, leaving the trust issue aside,&nbsp; to my knowledge once you solve the I/O details you can&#039;t begin to touch the low cost processing power and flexibility, with any pro level processor on the market.... almost at any cost.&nbsp; If you do go the minidsp route, first thing to decide is mono vs stereo (as with any processor), and then whether to FIR or not. Minidsp has a bunch of products, and deciding these two from the gitgo helps simplify selection and I/O workarounds.(I&#039;ll be happy to continue to help here, and am willing to pass you FIR files.)OK, having said all that, let me step back a second...and offer a counter perspective.As this stage, if you really want to be able to safely get all the DIY can offer, ...there is still a continuing learning curve going on, as only a handful or two of folks appear to have built it.&nbsp; As you noted, most of the guys are somewhat audio hardcore.&nbsp; Almost everybody changes the plans a little to their liking, and uses whatever processing is available.....probably because they do feel confident at testing. IOW, the DIY kinda begs for the ability to test still.&nbsp; If that&#039;s a place you don&#039;t want to go, it&#039;s worth considering.Hope this helped,&nbsp; Mark</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mark Wilkinson, post: 203821, member: 8989"] Hi Johnny, I'll try to answer.... Yes, I think you could build the box and tune it by ear with the info that's contained in both the DIY60 and 90 threads. And certainly with forum help on any particular issues that might arise. This is assuming you use plans that are close to any of the ones posted and the specified drivers. Ears rule.... The horn and BMS coax are easy, there's no variance there....anybody's x-over settings HF to VHF should work. Easiest of all, use the passive crossover. Everybody's mid section is probably a little different, but probably not too different to start with XO and eq settings already found in the threads, and ear it out from there. Timing may be the trickiest, but I got by with Bink's test cd and a measuring tape for years before smaart. There's also freeware REW. The mindsp route is great, but it has two significant drawbacks. First is the consumer I/O (single ended vs balanced), and second is the consumer input and output levels. Both of these have to be thought through to use the minidsp boxes. I guess there is also the issue of trusting a show to the whole conglomeration... However, leaving the trust issue aside, to my knowledge once you solve the I/O details you can't begin to touch the low cost processing power and flexibility, with any pro level processor on the market.... almost at any cost. If you do go the minidsp route, first thing to decide is mono vs stereo (as with any processor), and then whether to FIR or not. Minidsp has a bunch of products, and deciding these two from the gitgo helps simplify selection and I/O workarounds. (I'll be happy to continue to help here, and am willing to pass you FIR files.) OK, having said all that, let me step back a second...and offer a counter perspective. As this stage, if you really want to be able to safely get all the DIY can offer, ...there is still a continuing learning curve going on, as only a handful or two of folks appear to have built it. As you noted, most of the guys are somewhat audio hardcore. Almost everybody changes the plans a little to their liking, and uses whatever processing is available.....probably because they do feel confident at testing. IOW, the DIY kinda begs for the ability to test still. If that's a place you don't want to go, it's worth considering. Hope this helped, Mark [/QUOTE]

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