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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Dameron" data-source="post: 90073" data-attributes="member: 1098"><p>Re: Analog FOH, Outboard opinions/preferences</p><p></p><p>As other have said, Tim's response is the right answer. Everything else, including mine is embellishment. </p><p></p><p>With most folks using digitals, I believe that parametric eq's are much more acceptable than just a few years ago. I would have at least 2 channels, and I would like to have those wired so that I could insert them. Depending on the act and the rig I could opt to put it on the L/R, a particular subgroup, or bothersome channel.</p><p></p><p>More important that what the gear is, is that it works. These days, when I walk into an analog rig my first thought is 'ooh cool'. My second is, 'crap, I'm going to have to work around a bunch of half working functions'. Last week I system tech'ed a nice Heritage at a festival. Nice console, well maintained, but used infrequently. Consequently, there were a number of scratchy pots and other shenanigans on a show where there really wasn't time for that. With all of the good used gear available for a low price, the COST of the low PRICE is that it's been sitting for a long time which is terrible on old analog gear.</p><p></p><p>With all that unpleasantness out of the way, I think if you're going to put together a big, awesome analog rig you should add a couple of fun pieces too. I would warn against going too crazy with it because it can make the rig appear piece meal to guest engineers. Consider finding a weird time based effect, a weird frequency effect and a weird dynamic effect to add to the mix. There are plenty of options on which, but what I mean is something like an old Eventide for time based, a DBX 120x for frequency based, and a gritty comp, like a Distressor. The problem with Distrossors is that they're still in demand so the price hasn't gone down on them. Check into a FMR Audio RNLA as a cheaper option. I also really like Aphex Expressors, even though they're really clean and not gritty, they're still in the "fun" category. </p><p></p><p>I'm glad nobody has put in a suggestion for any of the all in one channel strips, and I'll go ahead and preemptively put in a -1 for anybody who does. I've always found even the pretty nice ones underwhelming and prone to jack of all trades, masters of none syndrome. Or another words I don't see why in the world you'd bypass the channel strip on an MH-4 to get a 3 band parametric with one mid sweep and no Q, a 2 knob compressor. Seems to me to be a step back to a Mackie 4 bus. </p><p></p><p>My 2c,</p><p>thomas d.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Dameron, post: 90073, member: 1098"] Re: Analog FOH, Outboard opinions/preferences As other have said, Tim's response is the right answer. Everything else, including mine is embellishment. With most folks using digitals, I believe that parametric eq's are much more acceptable than just a few years ago. I would have at least 2 channels, and I would like to have those wired so that I could insert them. Depending on the act and the rig I could opt to put it on the L/R, a particular subgroup, or bothersome channel. More important that what the gear is, is that it works. These days, when I walk into an analog rig my first thought is 'ooh cool'. My second is, 'crap, I'm going to have to work around a bunch of half working functions'. Last week I system tech'ed a nice Heritage at a festival. Nice console, well maintained, but used infrequently. Consequently, there were a number of scratchy pots and other shenanigans on a show where there really wasn't time for that. With all of the good used gear available for a low price, the COST of the low PRICE is that it's been sitting for a long time which is terrible on old analog gear. With all that unpleasantness out of the way, I think if you're going to put together a big, awesome analog rig you should add a couple of fun pieces too. I would warn against going too crazy with it because it can make the rig appear piece meal to guest engineers. Consider finding a weird time based effect, a weird frequency effect and a weird dynamic effect to add to the mix. There are plenty of options on which, but what I mean is something like an old Eventide for time based, a DBX 120x for frequency based, and a gritty comp, like a Distressor. The problem with Distrossors is that they're still in demand so the price hasn't gone down on them. Check into a FMR Audio RNLA as a cheaper option. I also really like Aphex Expressors, even though they're really clean and not gritty, they're still in the "fun" category. I'm glad nobody has put in a suggestion for any of the all in one channel strips, and I'll go ahead and preemptively put in a -1 for anybody who does. I've always found even the pretty nice ones underwhelming and prone to jack of all trades, masters of none syndrome. Or another words I don't see why in the world you'd bypass the channel strip on an MH-4 to get a 3 band parametric with one mid sweep and no Q, a 2 knob compressor. Seems to me to be a step back to a Mackie 4 bus. My 2c, thomas d. [/QUOTE]
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