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Any reasons to get an AR133 over a J48?
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<blockquote data-quote="Geoff Doane" data-source="post: 109461" data-attributes="member: 1155"><p>Re: Any reasons to get an AR133 over a J48?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That input XLR on the BSS is a placebo. It's not really balanced. Pin 2 is the tip, and 1 and 3 connect to the sleeve of the input jack.</p><p></p><p>Not sure where Chris got the numbers on the J48. I just measured one here, and without the pad, that maximum output is about +8 dBu with +4 dBu going in. The noise floor is about -57 dBu, band limited from 22-22kHz. I measured a Radial Pro48 a while ago, and it was virtually the same as the J48, except slightly more output. To my mind, the Pro48 is the sleeper of the lineup, at about half the price of the J48.</p><p></p><p>The BSS does give you the option of battery instead of just phantom power however. That might be important for some people. We have a few BSS boxes as well. Here are the numbers on one random sample, running off phantom, not a battery.</p><p></p><p>Gain without pads: -1 dB</p><p>Maximum output: +11 dBu</p><p>Noise (input terminated): -62 dBu</p><p></p><p>Caution: to the casual A/B tester, the Radial, with 5 dB more gain, will sound "better". Don't get sucked into that trap! Normalize the gain, then LISTEN 8)~<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" />~<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>GTD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geoff Doane, post: 109461, member: 1155"] Re: Any reasons to get an AR133 over a J48? That input XLR on the BSS is a placebo. It's not really balanced. Pin 2 is the tip, and 1 and 3 connect to the sleeve of the input jack. Not sure where Chris got the numbers on the J48. I just measured one here, and without the pad, that maximum output is about +8 dBu with +4 dBu going in. The noise floor is about -57 dBu, band limited from 22-22kHz. I measured a Radial Pro48 a while ago, and it was virtually the same as the J48, except slightly more output. To my mind, the Pro48 is the sleeper of the lineup, at about half the price of the J48. The BSS does give you the option of battery instead of just phantom power however. That might be important for some people. We have a few BSS boxes as well. Here are the numbers on one random sample, running off phantom, not a battery. Gain without pads: -1 dB Maximum output: +11 dBu Noise (input terminated): -62 dBu Caution: to the casual A/B tester, the Radial, with 5 dB more gain, will sound "better". Don't get sucked into that trap! Normalize the gain, then LISTEN 8)~8-)~:cool: GTD [/QUOTE]
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