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Anybody ever miked up a cannon ?
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<blockquote data-quote="ToddBuckner" data-source="post: 58718" data-attributes="member: 302"><p>Re: Anybody ever miked up a cannon ?</p><p></p><p>Okay,....so here is the follow up, a little slow getting back but been really busy and spending a lot of time on the golf course the last few weeks.</p><p></p><p>Most of the posts referencing the sheer volume of cannons are spot on.... the are sooo loud you can't keep them out of the 40+ mics on the stage at all and there is absolutely no need to mic them. I can get the orchestra painfully loud and you still hear the cannons. The army does use a guy with the sheet music and timers on them and they fire them almost dead in sync with the music (at the stage... not so great at some spots as the arrival time actual differs which is what caused the issue since they are concentrating on area in front of stage and not near them so they are a bit early the closer you get to the cannons.... and louder !!!)......it basically works out very well except for the the open mics picking them up.</p><p> </p><p>The desire to mike them came from a clueless event organizer who knows some audio buzzwords and is a pain in the butt. He got a couple officers to agree and my pain in fore-mentioned area began. I tried to explain why the cannons did not sound right in relationship to the music in the side of the field closer to the cannons because they were firing early to be in time in the area in front of the stage. It was funny that the artillery guys understood how to fire them early to be in correct alignment , but we could not make the "boss" understand how miking them and sending the same signal back a second time a second later would not fix the problem. However my previously mentioned pain in ass solution to everything is more gear , bigger, louder but at the same budget of course; so I stuck a wireless mic over near the cannons at soundcheck and called it miked. He got a pat on the back for making sure everything was so perfect and we all got a big laugh. We actually never even took the mic back for the show and it was never in the PA as I am sure most everyone here expected. </p><p></p><p>And yes.... the cannons were heard loud and clear by those in attendance and a few folks actually suggested they may be a bit too loud because they were miked ??</p><p></p><p>and we are booked again next year.... maybe i can buy a proper cannon mic by then and dial in a little better tone ... they sounded kinda harsh and metallic !! I think i will call my Shure rep and see what they can do .....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ToddBuckner, post: 58718, member: 302"] Re: Anybody ever miked up a cannon ? Okay,....so here is the follow up, a little slow getting back but been really busy and spending a lot of time on the golf course the last few weeks. Most of the posts referencing the sheer volume of cannons are spot on.... the are sooo loud you can't keep them out of the 40+ mics on the stage at all and there is absolutely no need to mic them. I can get the orchestra painfully loud and you still hear the cannons. The army does use a guy with the sheet music and timers on them and they fire them almost dead in sync with the music (at the stage... not so great at some spots as the arrival time actual differs which is what caused the issue since they are concentrating on area in front of stage and not near them so they are a bit early the closer you get to the cannons.... and louder !!!)......it basically works out very well except for the the open mics picking them up. The desire to mike them came from a clueless event organizer who knows some audio buzzwords and is a pain in the butt. He got a couple officers to agree and my pain in fore-mentioned area began. I tried to explain why the cannons did not sound right in relationship to the music in the side of the field closer to the cannons because they were firing early to be in time in the area in front of the stage. It was funny that the artillery guys understood how to fire them early to be in correct alignment , but we could not make the "boss" understand how miking them and sending the same signal back a second time a second later would not fix the problem. However my previously mentioned pain in ass solution to everything is more gear , bigger, louder but at the same budget of course; so I stuck a wireless mic over near the cannons at soundcheck and called it miked. He got a pat on the back for making sure everything was so perfect and we all got a big laugh. We actually never even took the mic back for the show and it was never in the PA as I am sure most everyone here expected. And yes.... the cannons were heard loud and clear by those in attendance and a few folks actually suggested they may be a bit too loud because they were miked ?? and we are booked again next year.... maybe i can buy a proper cannon mic by then and dial in a little better tone ... they sounded kinda harsh and metallic !! I think i will call my Shure rep and see what they can do ..... [/QUOTE]
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