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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Cagle" data-source="post: 47342" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>Re: Behringer line array</p><p></p><p>The cost of entry declining is always a double edged sword. I have recording studio equipment sitting in storage that I payed a small fortune for years ago when it was state of the art. The thing is, that equipment made me money at the time and has been written off on the books for years. It is wonderful that what I can buy now, and do currently own, costs a fraction of what I had to pay 10 and 20 years ago, and sounds exponentially better. I used to hate the cost of 2" tape and the fact that I got less than 17 minutes of 24 track running time on a reel. The machine was the size of a small refrigerator and required a maintenance program all of its own. When I work in my studio now the money that I actually take home is more with much less invested. Adjusting for inflation not figured. Yes anybody with a few bucks or a decent credit card or two can "buy in" now, but only those with good skills and marketing are going to stay in and actually make decent sounding recordings. I am no longer hired for the gear I have available but for the sound I get, which is kind of the way I always thought it was supposed to work. The previous problem was I could not get the sound without mortgaging my life away. The current product is better, costs less, and I get paid at least the same or more without the stress of owing almost six figures to the bank. Too bad it all ends up on MP3 anyway.</p><p></p><p>In the "pricing for a rig rental" thread I found out that the big boys operate on such low ROI margins it is almost scary. It reminds me of my early recording studio owner days. It takes some major capital to play and that has to be amortized over many years to just break even. The profit has to be made on service and skilled labor. Until now the buy in has kept many of the ankle biters out of even the mid level sound reinforcement game and that most likely will not change overnight any time soon. Even if Behringer or anyone else changes equipment cost drastically it will not put the top end and best of the best guys out of business. Service, skilled labor, relationships, marketing, and good business practices will always trump in the long run. I would love to be able to purchase a 20 box A level line array for $10,000 or some other arbitrary low figure just like everybody else INCLUDING the Big Boys. The money is made in the set up,proper deployment, operating, and strike portions of the contract. It seems the high cost of equipment has only been a tool to keep people without access to capital out. Companies like Clair Brothers and engineers like Robert Scovill and Dave Rat are still going to be at the top and rightfully command premium prices. I am shure all of them would like to be able to pay less for better equipment.</p><p></p><p>You pay well for the top tier in any industry and you get your moneys worth or the top tier folks soon have no market share. The law of supply and demand always has a say. Anyone can buy Smaart for $700 but it doesn't make them Ivan or Phil. I would love to see the bottom and mid line providers have access to affordable, decent sounding line array technology and actually learn how to deploy it properly. All the Behringer Bashing is well earned by the company but I am willing to forgive and forget if they truly change their ways and make some good products at affordible prices that don't break in the first few months. I won't be one of the guinea pigs on this one due to being burned by them before, but I might buy some boxes later if they prove themself. I hope this product is a step in the right direction but only time will tell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Cagle, post: 47342, member: 277"] Re: Behringer line array The cost of entry declining is always a double edged sword. I have recording studio equipment sitting in storage that I payed a small fortune for years ago when it was state of the art. The thing is, that equipment made me money at the time and has been written off on the books for years. It is wonderful that what I can buy now, and do currently own, costs a fraction of what I had to pay 10 and 20 years ago, and sounds exponentially better. I used to hate the cost of 2" tape and the fact that I got less than 17 minutes of 24 track running time on a reel. The machine was the size of a small refrigerator and required a maintenance program all of its own. When I work in my studio now the money that I actually take home is more with much less invested. Adjusting for inflation not figured. Yes anybody with a few bucks or a decent credit card or two can "buy in" now, but only those with good skills and marketing are going to stay in and actually make decent sounding recordings. I am no longer hired for the gear I have available but for the sound I get, which is kind of the way I always thought it was supposed to work. The previous problem was I could not get the sound without mortgaging my life away. The current product is better, costs less, and I get paid at least the same or more without the stress of owing almost six figures to the bank. Too bad it all ends up on MP3 anyway. In the "pricing for a rig rental" thread I found out that the big boys operate on such low ROI margins it is almost scary. It reminds me of my early recording studio owner days. It takes some major capital to play and that has to be amortized over many years to just break even. The profit has to be made on service and skilled labor. Until now the buy in has kept many of the ankle biters out of even the mid level sound reinforcement game and that most likely will not change overnight any time soon. Even if Behringer or anyone else changes equipment cost drastically it will not put the top end and best of the best guys out of business. Service, skilled labor, relationships, marketing, and good business practices will always trump in the long run. I would love to be able to purchase a 20 box A level line array for $10,000 or some other arbitrary low figure just like everybody else INCLUDING the Big Boys. The money is made in the set up,proper deployment, operating, and strike portions of the contract. It seems the high cost of equipment has only been a tool to keep people without access to capital out. Companies like Clair Brothers and engineers like Robert Scovill and Dave Rat are still going to be at the top and rightfully command premium prices. I am shure all of them would like to be able to pay less for better equipment. You pay well for the top tier in any industry and you get your moneys worth or the top tier folks soon have no market share. The law of supply and demand always has a say. Anyone can buy Smaart for $700 but it doesn't make them Ivan or Phil. I would love to see the bottom and mid line providers have access to affordable, decent sounding line array technology and actually learn how to deploy it properly. All the Behringer Bashing is well earned by the company but I am willing to forgive and forget if they truly change their ways and make some good products at affordible prices that don't break in the first few months. I won't be one of the guinea pigs on this one due to being burned by them before, but I might buy some boxes later if they prove themself. I hope this product is a step in the right direction but only time will tell. [/QUOTE]
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