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<blockquote data-quote="John Halliburton" data-source="post: 97140" data-attributes="member: 8">Re: Bikes?If I were riding in the city, I&#039;d look at a design with less extreme positioning.My Bacchetta Giro 20 can be set up with the seat in a more upright position than shown earlier in the photo.&nbsp; When set up like that, you are easily at the same head height as most car drivers.&nbsp; Now, this is not as high up as on a regular bike necessarilly, but unlike you&#039;re head position on a road machine with drop bars, your head angle is upright like in the car, and it&#039;s much easier to look around you.&nbsp; Even on most mountain bikes, the riding position is similar except in the entry level machines.&nbsp; Most recumbents have wheelbases longer than the 1m norm of upright bikes.&nbsp; There are some short wheelbase designs out there.&nbsp; Rans make one that has about the same wheelbase as mine, called the Enduro, which may get you more upright than the Giro:<a href="http://rans.com/bicycles/enduro-sport.html" target="_blank">Enduro Sport</a>Rans also has a range of what they call &quot;Crank Forward&quot; design uprights, which may be the best solution.&nbsp; Back relief, yet upright.<a href="http://rans.com/bicycles/crank-forward.html" target="_blank">Crank Forward Bicycles</a>I&#039;ve always thought these would be a very cool city bike, and who knows, you might be able to put together a rig for hire that you could pedal to the client.<a href="http://8freight.com/" target="_blank">8Freight</a>Haven&#039;t seen an importer for the U.S. unfortunately.&nbsp; Silas, you want to weld up some 4130 aircraft tubing for me? ;&gt;)Best regards,John</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Halliburton, post: 97140, member: 8"] Re: Bikes? If I were riding in the city, I'd look at a design with less extreme positioning. My Bacchetta Giro 20 can be set up with the seat in a more upright position than shown earlier in the photo. When set up like that, you are easily at the same head height as most car drivers. Now, this is not as high up as on a regular bike necessarilly, but unlike you're head position on a road machine with drop bars, your head angle is upright like in the car, and it's much easier to look around you. Even on most mountain bikes, the riding position is similar except in the entry level machines. Most recumbents have wheelbases longer than the 1m norm of upright bikes. There are some short wheelbase designs out there. Rans make one that has about the same wheelbase as mine, called the Enduro, which may get you more upright than the Giro: [url=http://rans.com/bicycles/enduro-sport.html]Enduro Sport[/url] Rans also has a range of what they call "Crank Forward" design uprights, which may be the best solution. Back relief, yet upright. [url=http://rans.com/bicycles/crank-forward.html]Crank Forward Bicycles[/url] I've always thought these would be a very cool city bike, and who knows, you might be able to put together a rig for hire that you could pedal to the client. [url=http://8freight.com/]8Freight[/url] Haven't seen an importer for the U.S. unfortunately. Silas, you want to weld up some 4130 aircraft tubing for me? ;>) Best regards, John [/QUOTE]

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