Budget earset mics

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I'm looking for user reports on the ones in the $20 to $50 price range. Pyle has a model for around $20 or less, it looks only to come with a Shure body pack connector though, I would need Audio Technica.

I used one of these for a wedding today. It's a £45 mic which given the magical conversion rate would probably equate to $45 too :razz:. They have lots of connector options on that site. There is better stuff available obviously, but this mic was in no way noticable as being a cheap item while in use.

MIC-2000LJ - PULSE - SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT HEADSET MICROPHONE | CPC

Chris
 
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That looks like a U.K company and pricing seems to be around 80 Euro for headsets plus shipping. At that point I would just go ahead and go with the Mmadness units. From my experience they seem pretty durable.
 
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I know the MM Audio "microphone madness" is the first pick in alternative choices to earset mics on a budget. I'm looking for user reports on the ones in the $20 to $50 price range. Pyle has a model for around $20 or less, it looks only to come with a Shure body pack connector though, I would need Audio Technica.
We're using the Pyle dual ear models on shure transmitters for our kids theater performers at our church. They are actually quite good. And at the price, almost disposable, which is great when the actors get 'slimed' or whatever else they dream up. These replaced DPA's that were about 500bucks and no one has even noticed a difference in the sound other than me. Connector could easily be changed. Totally worth looking at...
 
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I picked up one of these on Amazon for $17 for our christmas production. We have 7 bodypacks but needed a few more headsets. I got one of the MM and one of these. We now have 4 dual ear from MM, 2 single ear from MM, and one of the Pyle units. The Pyle unit came with a short in the connector, so I had to re-terminate the connector. For $17 I didn't mind. It sounds great, and for my head it fits better then the MM units. The mic capsule on the Pyle is bigger than on the MM.

One big difference is how the units are fitted. The MM headsets are very flexible. They can be reshaped anyway you like. The problem is that they usually get returned very out of shape and have to be reshaped. If you leave that up to the person wearing it, the mic usually gets pointed away from their mouth. The Pyle is rigid and doesn't allow for shaping, so the mic usually ends up in a good position with little or no fitting. But I could see how it could snap if bent too far. Imagine someone sitting on it. I'm not really sure how I'm going to safely store this mic until next year.

Amazon.com: Pyle-Pro PMHMS20 Wired Headset Boom Mini XLR Omni-Directional Microphone: Musical Instruments

On the amazon page it's interesting that the picture shows the mic being worn what I would consider upside down.
 
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I just ordered two of the Pyle mics off of Amazon complete with free shipping! Since I will be trying these on my At wireless systems I'm going have to change them to the Hirose connector. With the connectors I just ordered that will bring the mics up to $27 each. If they hold up half way decent and sound decent like the reviews I have read I'll get some more for the school plays I work with.
 
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Mike, please let us know how they work out. I'm also interested in how you terminate the AT connectors. 2 of our bodypacks are AT. The Shure connectors on the Pyle had a little circuit board in them with a surface mount capacitor and resister.
 
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Mike, please let us know how they work out. I'm also interested in how you terminate the AT connectors. 2 of our bodypacks are AT. The Shure connectors on the Pyle had a little circuit board in them with a surface mount capacitor and resister.

That will make things interesting but a good challenge. Not much extra room inside a four pin Hirose connector.
I'll let you know.
 
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First quick test of the Pyle PMHMS20 earset/headset mics. The headset and boom assembly is actually kind of good. It's made of a stiffer springer metal than a Countryman or the AT 892, that maybe good or maybe not. The cable has that cheap plastic feel to it and the packaging kinks in the cable has not smoothed out yet. I made a short adapter cable going from the Hirose AT connector to the TA4M connector. In the quick test directly going back and forth between an AT 892 and the Pyle, the Pyle needs work in that 250hz low mid area, it started taking off as soon as I unmuted it. Via PFL I had the levels fairly matched between the two. Time did not allow to ring it out and work with it more.
With the adapter cable it brings the cost up to $40 per mic. Even if the mics just don't do it I'll still have a couple of handy AT to Shure adapter cables!
 
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Hi Mike, would you mind sharing the details of the adapter? The connectors you used, where you purchased them from, and the pinouts.
 
Re: Budget earset mics - AT to Shure adapter cable

I made up a AT Hirose to TA4M adapter cable so I could plug a Shure wired TA4F mic directly in. There would have been no room to include the little board in the Pyle mic's connector inside a Hirose connector. Having the adapter cables will be handy anyway.
I got the connectors from Markertek as well as some small cable to make them up with.

Hirose Electric USA, Inc. Hirose HR10A-7P-4S 4-Pin Female Push-Pull Connector with 7mm Male Shell 4-Pin EIAJ Camera Connectors at Markertek.com

Switchcraft Corporation Switchcraft TA4MX Tini Q-G Miniature Connector Straight Male Cord Plug XLR Connectors at Markertek.com

Mogami Wire & Cable Corp. Mogami W2697 Miniature Balanced / Lavalier Microphone Cable Bulk Audio Cable at Markertek.com

I used some heat shrink on the cable at the connector ends to size it up a little to fit the connector boots better.

Attached is a scan of the pin outs and connections....yes it was hand drawn with a sharpie!
Let me know if you have any questions.
I still have not passed final judgment on getting any more of the Pyle mics. I can get one to sound decent but I'm wondering what they would be like with four or five open at one time
on a stage.
 

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I still have not passed final judgment on getting any more of the Pyle mics. I can get one to sound decent but I'm wondering what they would be like with four or five open at one on a stage.

That's why I love my auto-mixers........
 
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At this time my auto mixer is fingers on faders and eye's on the scrip, notes and stage.....maybe not always in that order!

That used to work for me, but my old eyes can no longer quickly re-focus from near work to far. That and the shared wireless units due to budget constraints make me value any device which helps me run show more efficiently. But most of all, the added GBF is worth the (used) price of the SCM410's in the rack.
 
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Here's my low budget review of these low budget mics:

My company just wrapped up providing audio support for a local community theatre's production of a "fringey" off-broadway style production. Because of the performance space, I decided that we would need headset mics as opposed to my usual supply of WL93's and WL185's. I have a rack of 8 Audio-technica lav packs with the OSP brand HS-06 headsets that rent out frequently to school musicals. We needed 11 mics in all so I needed a budget mic option for my remaining stock of Shure SC series VHF rack.

After reading Riley Casey's favorable review of the pyle headsets I decided to give them a shot. I initially set them up at the end of the input list not expecting much, expecting to use them for characters with few speaking lines. Once the rig was installed in the venue I began the normal process of ringing out the mics, which was not an easy task. One of the main speakers (JBL VRX932LAP) was actually BEHIND (upstage of) the cast. I started with the OSP headsets and spent about 10 minutes making careful cuts on the 01V96 parametric EQ, a little hacked, but stable and sounded reasonable.

Next I fired up the Pyle mics on the Shure SC packs. I started pushing the fader up and up and was amazed that I was getting 6-10db more GBF than the OSP mics. With just a few small cuts I was able to get damn near the benchmark of SM58 sound quality with my voice.

Regarding the RF and AF performance of the 2 systems. The audio-technica stuff has always been decent for me in terms of RF even without paddles or antenna distribution system for most small venues. The AF for whatever reason tends to overload with louder singers or yelling even with the pack gain all the way down. ---- The Shure SC series dates from the 1990's, but for it's time I think it was actually pretty high end stuff, and I have it racked up with a proper shure antenna distro and 1/4 wave antennas. You also seem to be able to get a lot more gain / attenuation on the audio input side of the shure packs which is nice. It's definitely nicer than the current PGX series stuff.

So after some initial testing, I decided to give the Pyles with the Shure packs a shot with the 4 lead characters. All things considered I have no complaints about the RF or AF performance of the Pyle and Shure combo. Like a lot of cheaper mics they don't seem to be as forgiving on some voices, but they were much better than the comparable $100 OSP headsets.

But here's the best part: This play involved a lot of fake blood around the character's mouths. One night during act 2, one of the PYLEs took a heavy dose of fake blood and stopped passing audio. I let it dry overnight and it started working again just fine the next day. Another night, one of the actors bent the metal ear hook tube a little too hard and the mic snapped in half causing it to short and stop working. Tossed it in the trash and took a new one out of the package and we were back in action. Finally, we had one more dose of fake blood in the mic during the first act. I took the mic during intermission, dunked it in some bottled water a few times, threw it on a 40W lightbulb to dry out real quick, and was able to limp through act 2 with just a few EQ tweaks and some added gain.

So what do I have to say about these mics? You can get some good audio quality out of them with a decent PA and RF setup. I likely wouldn't use them for my UHF-R systems, but in an application where your headsets are likely to be beat up and ruined, you won't shed a tear when you have to toss them in the trash AND they're so cheap you can always have plenty of replacements on hand. I felt a lot better just absorbing the modest cost of the trashed mic into the rental cost than having to hit a community theater with a $480 DPA replacement bill.