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Cardioid Subs in a Smaller venue.
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<blockquote data-quote="Matthew O&#039;Sullivan" data-source="post: 207820" data-attributes="member: 11919"><p>I know this is old but .... a question <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p>I have 4 JBL 4645C's (single 18's built mainly for cinema installs) to go under a 15m wide stage for a dance concert in a venu of about 350. The wooden stage is about 20m wide and the 4 subs live under a stage with about 6" of clearance on a concrete floor covered in very thin lino. The 2 FOH sides consist of 2 Evsx300's at about 15' up on wall mounts with another 4 at the venue rear, plus 4 monitors set at the same height as FOH for stage left and right (rear and front) monitoring back to the performers (particularly for heavy tap dance numbers). I've got a centre fill channel for FOH as well to fill a hole centre stage in the first few rows. Under the stage are 6 mic's to pick up tap dancing live which are gated to stop the sub output bleeding through. The cast are a variety of performers including some excellent tap dancers who need the monitors turned up - they all use a mix of recored music for ballet/tap/jazz numbers.</p><p>I have various DSP incl dbx venue 360 and PA+ and carvers.</p><p>So I can pretty much set up any array I choose.</p><p>front row is only about 3m or so from the front stage so I have to be careful how much sound I push.</p><p>So last year I deloyed the JBL's as 2 front (together and centre) + 2 rear exactly behind(the 2 rear subs were front facing).</p><p>set around 60Hz with 180 degree shift plus the delay for the cone-to cone distance around 1.2m (from memory)</p><p>Question - I have the options to place the subs anywhere under the stage in any config I choose.</p><p> So do any or you have suggestions based on your experiences.</p><p>Eg I could go 4 straight across the front and put up with the rear bass on stage for better punch (not that I actually need more power out front).</p><p> Other options include centre cluster 3 + 1 rear facing ; centre cluster 2 + 2 rear facing ; 2 pods of 2 each side - 1 behind the other at 135 degrees facing out ; or use 2 pods and add 2 more in the centre.</p><p>Hope that's enough info for some thoughts - Of course I could try all of the above myself but i'm not certain I have the time or energy to move those big boxes around that much !!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matthew O'Sullivan, post: 207820, member: 11919"] I know this is old but .... a question :-) I have 4 JBL 4645C's (single 18's built mainly for cinema installs) to go under a 15m wide stage for a dance concert in a venu of about 350. The wooden stage is about 20m wide and the 4 subs live under a stage with about 6" of clearance on a concrete floor covered in very thin lino. The 2 FOH sides consist of 2 Evsx300's at about 15' up on wall mounts with another 4 at the venue rear, plus 4 monitors set at the same height as FOH for stage left and right (rear and front) monitoring back to the performers (particularly for heavy tap dance numbers). I've got a centre fill channel for FOH as well to fill a hole centre stage in the first few rows. Under the stage are 6 mic's to pick up tap dancing live which are gated to stop the sub output bleeding through. The cast are a variety of performers including some excellent tap dancers who need the monitors turned up - they all use a mix of recored music for ballet/tap/jazz numbers. I have various DSP incl dbx venue 360 and PA+ and carvers. So I can pretty much set up any array I choose. front row is only about 3m or so from the front stage so I have to be careful how much sound I push. So last year I deloyed the JBL's as 2 front (together and centre) + 2 rear exactly behind(the 2 rear subs were front facing). set around 60Hz with 180 degree shift plus the delay for the cone-to cone distance around 1.2m (from memory) Question - I have the options to place the subs anywhere under the stage in any config I choose. So do any or you have suggestions based on your experiences. Eg I could go 4 straight across the front and put up with the rear bass on stage for better punch (not that I actually need more power out front). Other options include centre cluster 3 + 1 rear facing ; centre cluster 2 + 2 rear facing ; 2 pods of 2 each side - 1 behind the other at 135 degrees facing out ; or use 2 pods and add 2 more in the centre. Hope that's enough info for some thoughts - Of course I could try all of the above myself but i'm not certain I have the time or energy to move those big boxes around that much !!! [/QUOTE]
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