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<blockquote data-quote="Art Welter" data-source="post: 40217" data-attributes="member: 52"><p>Re: Creating a better money channel in IEM land</p><p></p><p></p><p>Latency is generally not a problem for instrumentalists, as has been pointed out it is generally less than the latency from a wedge to a performer, so no timing problems. </p><p></p><p>The problem with latency for a singer is the short delay in ear mixed with their natural voice causes a phase difference that only they will hear, though as a monitor engineer you will hear it if you try singing along through the same gear.</p><p>Short delays of around 2ms associated with most "decent" digital gear can cause worse "hollow" sounds for the vocalist than longer delays which move the coloration out of the vocal fundamental range. The actual delay will determine the frequency the problem is worst at, so some songs in a different key may sound "OK" to the singer, while others sound like crap to him. The singer is hearing something that sounds (to him) like a phase shifter effect stuck somewhere in the middle of a sweep. No way to EQ that right, but cranking the level makes it sound less annoying.</p><p></p><p>The OP, if not able to find an analog alternative (interesting to see Bono using a Midas Venice for his in ears :^) may find that adding a slight bit of delay to his channel may eliminate the tonal problem associated with the short latency inherent in the digital gear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Art Welter, post: 40217, member: 52"] Re: Creating a better money channel in IEM land Latency is generally not a problem for instrumentalists, as has been pointed out it is generally less than the latency from a wedge to a performer, so no timing problems. The problem with latency for a singer is the short delay in ear mixed with their natural voice causes a phase difference that only they will hear, though as a monitor engineer you will hear it if you try singing along through the same gear. Short delays of around 2ms associated with most "decent" digital gear can cause worse "hollow" sounds for the vocalist than longer delays which move the coloration out of the vocal fundamental range. The actual delay will determine the frequency the problem is worst at, so some songs in a different key may sound "OK" to the singer, while others sound like crap to him. The singer is hearing something that sounds (to him) like a phase shifter effect stuck somewhere in the middle of a sweep. No way to EQ that right, but cranking the level makes it sound less annoying. The OP, if not able to find an analog alternative (interesting to see Bono using a Midas Venice for his in ears :^) may find that adding a slight bit of delay to his channel may eliminate the tonal problem associated with the short latency inherent in the digital gear. [/QUOTE]
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