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<blockquote data-quote="Kip Conner" data-source="post: 25609" data-attributes="member: 445"><p>Re: delay for a mic & a di?</p><p></p><p>Not sure why you would want to create a combing effect unless you were just looking to kill the top end of the summed signal. Besides there should be enough of a difference in the sound of the pick-up versus the sound of the speaker rig to not allow that effect. I am like you and that I don't use both very often unless the bass player is creating something that only the speakers can re-produce. For instance you can get more grow out of bass by mic'ing the cabinet unless you are running through the lunch box version of a Purple Mic Pre. </p><p></p><p>As for which one you need to delay, it's going to depend on who is winning the race to the finish. The direct source should get to the console faster due to the inherit nature of low frequency propagation from the cabinet drivers. As for the amount- there's no magic number. It's going to completely depend on the phase response of the independent signals. The quickest way to do it would be to use the impulse measurement in Smaart (or the FFT of your choice) using the direct signal as the reference trace and the mic as the live trace. Not sure that I would use the delay locater for something like this, although I suppose you could. </p><p></p><p>That radial device looks like a cool insert in the analog signal chain, but you would still need something like Smaart to help determine where to place the dial. Otherwise you would just be shooting in the dark by what sounds right. But hey, at the end of the day we have to trust what we hear anyways, right? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kip Conner, post: 25609, member: 445"] Re: delay for a mic & a di? Not sure why you would want to create a combing effect unless you were just looking to kill the top end of the summed signal. Besides there should be enough of a difference in the sound of the pick-up versus the sound of the speaker rig to not allow that effect. I am like you and that I don't use both very often unless the bass player is creating something that only the speakers can re-produce. For instance you can get more grow out of bass by mic'ing the cabinet unless you are running through the lunch box version of a Purple Mic Pre. As for which one you need to delay, it's going to depend on who is winning the race to the finish. The direct source should get to the console faster due to the inherit nature of low frequency propagation from the cabinet drivers. As for the amount- there's no magic number. It's going to completely depend on the phase response of the independent signals. The quickest way to do it would be to use the impulse measurement in Smaart (or the FFT of your choice) using the direct signal as the reference trace and the mic as the live trace. Not sure that I would use the delay locater for something like this, although I suppose you could. That radial device looks like a cool insert in the analog signal chain, but you would still need something like Smaart to help determine where to place the dial. Otherwise you would just be shooting in the dark by what sounds right. But hey, at the end of the day we have to trust what we hear anyways, right? :) [/QUOTE]
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