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<blockquote data-quote="Adam Robinson" data-source="post: 97342" data-attributes="member: 43">Re: DiGiCo Rider AcceptabilityI can&#039;t speak for Clair, but as a regular Eighth Day client I can attest that they own a lot of Digico and Midas consoles along with Avid and the rest.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen an Allen &amp; Heath in their shop, but I&#039;m not the final word on that.&nbsp; As for your reliability strike, I think you may be mistaken.&nbsp; I have almost exclusively toured with them since 2007 (D1, D5, SD7, SD8, SD9, SD10) and I have never EVER had a Digico bail on me.&nbsp; Even a D1 or D5.&nbsp; By the time I got to use these consoles, any previous bugs leading to failure must have been dealt with. ALL digital consoles at some point will have some sort of reliability issue.&nbsp; I have personally worked on just about every popular touring desk out there and have experienced an issue on every single one of them at one point.&nbsp; It&#039;s just the nature of the beast.But let&#039;s get back to Silas&#039;s issue at hand.&nbsp; In my opinion, any band asking for an SD8 is not going to accept an M7CL as an alternative.&nbsp; If I were asking for an SD9, I probably also would not take an M7CL as an alternative.&nbsp; As ubiquitous as an M7 might be, they sound awful when compared to the rest.&nbsp; Are you trying to meet riders or does your business model not need to worry about it?&nbsp; An SD9 is priced similarly to a Midas Pro2.&nbsp; The SD9 will process more inputs and outputs than the Pro2.&nbsp; The Pro2 runs at 96k, while currently the SD9 runs at 48k (rumored 96k coming).&nbsp; The SD9 is infinitely more flexible than the Midas, and that flexibility is often what frightens people until they get used to it.&nbsp; The SD9 does not have a redundant snake option (currently.&nbsp; Apparently there&#039;s a fiber option that will bring redundancy to this desk).&nbsp; The Pro2 has snake redundancy.&nbsp; The Avid SD48 with the digital snake option also does not offer redundancy.&nbsp; I feel bad that Shane had a bad experience on an SD9.&nbsp; They&#039;re great sounding consoles bred from the same stuff as the flagship SD7.&nbsp; The SD7 is an extremely popular console among our top tours.&nbsp; A couple bad sounding shows sounds like engineer error more than console error.&nbsp; I think you should contact your Digico, Midas, and Avid reps and get all those desks in your shop and try them all out personally before making a decision.&nbsp; In the same spirit of giving new products a good test drive before forming my own opinions, I&#039;m out with a Pro2 right now, putting it through its paces.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Adam Robinson, post: 97342, member: 43"] Re: DiGiCo Rider Acceptability I can't speak for Clair, but as a regular Eighth Day client I can attest that they own a lot of Digico and Midas consoles along with Avid and the rest. I don't think I've seen an Allen & Heath in their shop, but I'm not the final word on that. As for your reliability strike, I think you may be mistaken. I have almost exclusively toured with them since 2007 (D1, D5, SD7, SD8, SD9, SD10) and I have never EVER had a Digico bail on me. Even a D1 or D5. By the time I got to use these consoles, any previous bugs leading to failure must have been dealt with. ALL digital consoles at some point will have some sort of reliability issue. I have personally worked on just about every popular touring desk out there and have experienced an issue on every single one of them at one point. It's just the nature of the beast. But let's get back to Silas's issue at hand. In my opinion, any band asking for an SD8 is not going to accept an M7CL as an alternative. If I were asking for an SD9, I probably also would not take an M7CL as an alternative. As ubiquitous as an M7 might be, they sound awful when compared to the rest. Are you trying to meet riders or does your business model not need to worry about it? An SD9 is priced similarly to a Midas Pro2. The SD9 will process more inputs and outputs than the Pro2. The Pro2 runs at 96k, while currently the SD9 runs at 48k (rumored 96k coming). The SD9 is infinitely more flexible than the Midas, and that flexibility is often what frightens people until they get used to it. The SD9 does not have a redundant snake option (currently. Apparently there's a fiber option that will bring redundancy to this desk). The Pro2 has snake redundancy. The Avid SD48 with the digital snake option also does not offer redundancy. I feel bad that Shane had a bad experience on an SD9. They're great sounding consoles bred from the same stuff as the flagship SD7. The SD7 is an extremely popular console among our top tours. A couple bad sounding shows sounds like engineer error more than console error. I think you should contact your Digico, Midas, and Avid reps and get all those desks in your shop and try them all out personally before making a decision. In the same spirit of giving new products a good test drive before forming my own opinions, I'm out with a Pro2 right now, putting it through its paces. [/QUOTE]

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