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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Maxwell" data-source="post: 41832" data-attributes="member: 321"><p>Re: Digital mixer - pros and cons?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don’t work in a church I just sometimes work with churches. </p><p></p><p>This church that I am working with has 6 singers and different ones take the lead on different songs. They want the mic of whoever that is brought up in all of the monitor sends (8 at the moment) for that part and then brought down again after they are done. They don’t want the monitors to be run post fader because they don’t want to hear the house mix changes in their monitors. A separate monitor mixer would be helpful but they don’t really have a good place to put one and they don’t have enough competent people. </p><p></p><p>I am trying to make this as simple for them as I can. I want to double assign these 6 mics, ideally without losing preamps. The one input (split) will only feed the house and the other input (split) will only feed the monitors (post fader). But I don’t want the mix person to have to have to bring up 2 faders at once and then remember to return them back to where they were. And the only way that I see to do this using scenes would be awkward and not able to easily have them get back to where they were. What I want is to be able to link the house channel and the monitor channel of the person doing the solo/lead but have it work only in one direction. That would mean that when you want to push a solo if you moved the monitor channel the house channel would follow but if you moved the house channel nothing would happen to the monitor channel. </p><p></p><p>The other way I can see this working is if I could assign a user defined key to assign both the monitor channel and the house channel to the same DCA and then the mixer (person) would just have to bring up a predefined DCA. Always use the same DCA and when the used defined key is pushed again it would un-assign those 2 channels, thus bringing them back to where they were before the solo. This would chew up 6 used defined keys if it could be done. Or leave the 6 mic channel with their matching monitor channel assigned to 6 DCA channels. And I don’t want to lose that many DCAs. </p><p></p><p>I personally believe that the problem could very easily be solved if the person taking the lead would just work the mic closer and push a little bit and the other singers should pull the mic back a little bit and drop their level a little bit. I have told them this and they don’t want to hear that, they think it is a technical problem. At the moment the sound people if they remember will bump up the trim on the solos channel and usually forget to bring it back down or have no idea where it was when they started. I told them that if I were mixing I wouldn’t touch the trims once they are properly set. </p><p></p><p>So I don’t know if this properly gets my point across.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Maxwell, post: 41832, member: 321"] Re: Digital mixer - pros and cons? I don’t work in a church I just sometimes work with churches. This church that I am working with has 6 singers and different ones take the lead on different songs. They want the mic of whoever that is brought up in all of the monitor sends (8 at the moment) for that part and then brought down again after they are done. They don’t want the monitors to be run post fader because they don’t want to hear the house mix changes in their monitors. A separate monitor mixer would be helpful but they don’t really have a good place to put one and they don’t have enough competent people. I am trying to make this as simple for them as I can. I want to double assign these 6 mics, ideally without losing preamps. The one input (split) will only feed the house and the other input (split) will only feed the monitors (post fader). But I don’t want the mix person to have to have to bring up 2 faders at once and then remember to return them back to where they were. And the only way that I see to do this using scenes would be awkward and not able to easily have them get back to where they were. What I want is to be able to link the house channel and the monitor channel of the person doing the solo/lead but have it work only in one direction. That would mean that when you want to push a solo if you moved the monitor channel the house channel would follow but if you moved the house channel nothing would happen to the monitor channel. The other way I can see this working is if I could assign a user defined key to assign both the monitor channel and the house channel to the same DCA and then the mixer (person) would just have to bring up a predefined DCA. Always use the same DCA and when the used defined key is pushed again it would un-assign those 2 channels, thus bringing them back to where they were before the solo. This would chew up 6 used defined keys if it could be done. Or leave the 6 mic channel with their matching monitor channel assigned to 6 DCA channels. And I don’t want to lose that many DCAs. I personally believe that the problem could very easily be solved if the person taking the lead would just work the mic closer and push a little bit and the other singers should pull the mic back a little bit and drop their level a little bit. I have told them this and they don’t want to hear that, they think it is a technical problem. At the moment the sound people if they remember will bump up the trim on the solos channel and usually forget to bring it back down or have no idea where it was when they started. I told them that if I were mixing I wouldn’t touch the trims once they are properly set. So I don’t know if this properly gets my point across. [/QUOTE]
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