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<blockquote data-quote="TJ Cornish" data-source="post: 74845" data-attributes="member: 162">Re: Does this product exist?The issues are the LED packaging and the number of diodes to get sufficient output, and getting rid of the heat.&nbsp; Most conventional fixtures are fairly enclosed, as lamp heat isn&#039;t particularly detrimental to bulb life of a halogen bulb.&nbsp; &nbsp; Philips has a BR30 60watt replacement claiming I think 800 lumens that I use in my house.&nbsp; It&#039;s a great bulb, but even at this low power, it has a special design of an exposed heatsink that sticks out from the fixture trim.The other fixture I&#039;m starting to use at home is a Commercial Electric retrofit bulb that replaces both the bulb and the 5&quot; or 6&quot; trim ring for recessed fixtures.&nbsp; So far I like them, but for whatever reason (presumably cooling) they chose to alter the fixture rather than just make a bulb.One other question is - other than cost - what&#039;s the advantage of retrofitting an LED bulb in a conventional fixture?&nbsp; One of the reasons I really love my LED Pars is they are pancake shaped, and about 4 of them fit in the same area in a case as a Par64 can.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TJ Cornish, post: 74845, member: 162"] Re: Does this product exist? The issues are the LED packaging and the number of diodes to get sufficient output, and getting rid of the heat. Most conventional fixtures are fairly enclosed, as lamp heat isn't particularly detrimental to bulb life of a halogen bulb. Philips has a BR30 60watt replacement claiming I think 800 lumens that I use in my house. It's a great bulb, but even at this low power, it has a special design of an exposed heatsink that sticks out from the fixture trim. The other fixture I'm starting to use at home is a Commercial Electric retrofit bulb that replaces both the bulb and the 5" or 6" trim ring for recessed fixtures. So far I like them, but for whatever reason (presumably cooling) they chose to alter the fixture rather than just make a bulb. One other question is - other than cost - what's the advantage of retrofitting an LED bulb in a conventional fixture? One of the reasons I really love my LED Pars is they are pancake shaped, and about 4 of them fit in the same area in a case as a Par64 can. [/QUOTE]

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