Are DPA 4099 variantions are all the same mic with different mounting hardware or is the 4099G mic different than the 4099P mic?
DPA 4099 variations
- Thread starter Jason Raboin
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Re: DPA 4099 variations
I was told by DPA that they are the same mic, just different mountings.
I have a couple 4099d, great snare mic for a metal kit where there's no room for anything else.
I was told by DPA that they are the same mic, just different mountings.
I have a couple 4099d, great snare mic for a metal kit where there's no room for anything else.
Re: DPA 4099 variations
There are two different sensitivity levels - the trumpet version (4099T) is lower sensitivity. Serial number starts with T and is a different color.
There are two different sensitivity levels - the trumpet version (4099T) is lower sensitivity. Serial number starts with T and is a different color.
Re: DPA 4099 variations
Sensitivity and adapter overview
Mic Sensitivity XLR connection
4099B Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099C Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099D Low – for high SPLs up to 152 dB DAD6001-BC
4099G Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
4099P Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099S Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
4099T Low – for high SPLs up to 152 dB DAD4099
4099U Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099V Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
Sensitivity and adapter overview
Mic Sensitivity XLR connection
4099B Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099C Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099D Low – for high SPLs up to 152 dB DAD6001-BC
4099G Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
4099P Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099S Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
4099T Low – for high SPLs up to 152 dB DAD4099
4099U Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD6001-BC
4099V Normal – for SPLs up to 142 dB DAD4099
Re: DPA 4099 variations
Great. Thanks for the info. Any tips on placement for piano? DPA has a guide I suppose I should read.
Great. Thanks for the info. Any tips on placement for piano? DPA has a guide I suppose I should read.
I think for any mic in a piano you need to decide stage placement, monitor placement, and lid height first.
Re: DPA 4099 variations
Jason....
From what I've done with grands for live sound, broadcast and recording I'd channel Ivan and say, "It depends". In doing live broadcast and working with engineers such as David Oakes, I've gotten splits on a lot of different setups including:
pair of ribbons L/R just on the inside of the hammers
pair of LDC's low/high about 1/3 of the way back from the hammers
57 in the hole
and many more. Sometimes there would be a 184 all the way down at the end on a full-size grand in addition to a low/high pair.
I can say that the one that sounded the best to me and had the least bleed from loud monitors was the pair of ribbons. The "velocity" response was the most natural and dynamic sound I've ever heard and was especially necessary for any pianist to whom touch is paramount.
Jason....
From what I've done with grands for live sound, broadcast and recording I'd channel Ivan and say, "It depends". In doing live broadcast and working with engineers such as David Oakes, I've gotten splits on a lot of different setups including:
pair of ribbons L/R just on the inside of the hammers
pair of LDC's low/high about 1/3 of the way back from the hammers
57 in the hole
and many more. Sometimes there would be a 184 all the way down at the end on a full-size grand in addition to a low/high pair.
I can say that the one that sounded the best to me and had the least bleed from loud monitors was the pair of ribbons. The "velocity" response was the most natural and dynamic sound I've ever heard and was especially necessary for any pianist to whom touch is paramount.
Re: DPA 4099 variations
I'm pretty shure (pun intended) he was talking about placement of DPA 4099 in a piano
Usually we have them about midway in the piano in a XY pattern. usually paired with a helpenstill piano pickup. Piano usually almost entirely closed (to reduce bleed)
I'm pretty shure (pun intended) he was talking about placement of DPA 4099 in a piano
Usually we have them about midway in the piano in a XY pattern. usually paired with a helpenstill piano pickup. Piano usually almost entirely closed (to reduce bleed)
Re: DPA 4099 variations
I would still say that the situation vis a vis type of music, onstage SPL, monitor placement, etc dictate placement to a degree. Probably the salient consideration would be the amount of hammer attack desired. I believe that DPA does have a mounting bar and install instructions available.
I'm pretty shure (pun intended) he was talking about placement of DPA 4099 in a piano
Usually we have them about midway in the piano in a XY pattern. usually paired with a helpenstill piano pickup. Piano usually almost entirely closed (to reduce bleed)
I would still say that the situation vis a vis type of music, onstage SPL, monitor placement, etc dictate placement to a degree. Probably the salient consideration would be the amount of hammer attack desired. I believe that DPA does have a mounting bar and install instructions available.
Re: DPA 4099 variations
With the 4099's I'd either go with a close-but-pointing-out pair in the center near the hammers, or near the hammers but spaced 1/3-2/3 of the way across the width of the keyboard (where the Earthworks shower curtain pole puts them). Sometimes another mic (doesn't have to be anything fancy) down near the tail to get more LF from the soundboard.
With the 4099's I'd either go with a close-but-pointing-out pair in the center near the hammers, or near the hammers but spaced 1/3-2/3 of the way across the width of the keyboard (where the Earthworks shower curtain pole puts them). Sometimes another mic (doesn't have to be anything fancy) down near the tail to get more LF from the soundboard.