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<blockquote data-quote="Steve Hurt" data-source="post: 39441" data-attributes="member: 311">Re: E-drums , stage monitors, and low end build up in FOHThanks to Steve Tarak for some phone time and info sharing!________________________________________Some more detail:I&#039;ve worked with both bands before.&quot;Band A&quot;Last time I worked with them, they had an acoustic kick drum and I had no issues at all.&nbsp; E-kick this time.Drums were mixed to one channel kick, snare, everything.&nbsp; The drummer says he&#039;ll split the kick out next time.&nbsp; The real cymbals were mic&#039;d and in the drummers mix. The band is a big one - 8 monitors including a drum sub - 6 vocalists, etc &quot;Band B&quot;I worked with them in my the studio with the exact same drum sounds and we were happy.&nbsp; I&#039;ve also done sound for them before, but back they used 2 wedges, a drummer on ears, and Yamaha Club 115&#039;s w/no subsNow at 4 mixes a bigger PA with real subs things were differentI think both bands have decent drum kit sounds programmed (other than the kick)My bet is the issues are with the kick EQ, and the amount of drums in the monitor spillCurrent plan is1) Try backing the subs amp down to something like &quot;+3db&quot; instead of &quot;+10db&quot; that is common.&nbsp; I think the drums have the +10db already built into their sounds!2) Hi-pass all the monitors higher (except the drummers) monitors to keep the lows out of the mics3) Try vocal mics with tighter patterns4) Anything suggested in this thread that sounds plausiblefwiw, I did get both bands sounding good eventually, just took longer than I like to take.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steve Hurt, post: 39441, member: 311"] Re: E-drums , stage monitors, and low end build up in FOH Thanks to Steve Tarak for some phone time and info sharing! ________________________________________ Some more detail: I've worked with both bands before. "Band A" Last time I worked with them, they had an acoustic kick drum and I had no issues at all. E-kick this time. Drums were mixed to one channel kick, snare, everything. The drummer says he'll split the kick out next time. The real cymbals were mic'd and in the drummers mix. The band is a big one - 8 monitors including a drum sub - 6 vocalists, etc "Band B" I worked with them in my the studio with the exact same drum sounds and we were happy. I've also done sound for them before, but back they used 2 wedges, a drummer on ears, and Yamaha Club 115's w/no subs Now at 4 mixes a bigger PA with real subs things were different I think both bands have decent drum kit sounds programmed (other than the kick) My bet is the issues are with the kick EQ, and the amount of drums in the monitor spill Current plan is 1) Try backing the subs amp down to something like "+3db" instead of "+10db" that is common. I think the drums have the +10db already built into their sounds! 2) Hi-pass all the monitors higher (except the drummers) monitors to keep the lows out of the mics 3) Try vocal mics with tighter patterns 4) Anything suggested in this thread that sounds plausible fwiw, I did get both bands sounding good eventually, just took longer than I like to take. [/QUOTE]

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