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<blockquote data-quote="Kim Watson" data-source="post: 56966" data-attributes="member: 41">Re: Earplugs and loud bandsThis is becoming quite the phenomenon over here too. The musicians are going to music college and are being told to get some proper Earplugs to protect their hearing when playing live and proceed to ask for it to be 15db louder to compensate for the level drop caused by the earplugs in the first place creating the same level as would be without the plugs. I can understand why, long term time stood next to a drummers cymbals = loss in that region of hearing but this is where the move to IEM should be made instead. They are being miss educated out there.I&#039;m seeing this more and more. Also with the younger engineers wearing plugs and mixing 15 - 20db louder so they can hear it..... Its crazy. Why not just do the sensible thing and TURN IT DOWN to start with.&nbsp; I&#039;ve always had the mix philosophy that if its too loud for me its too loud for everyone else and try to reign in the volume levels. and in smaller venues playing the lets remove these instruments form the rig because they are just too loud. I once had a guitarist who was from an old time band have his guitar so loud it hurt..... I mixed the band tidy but quieter underneath but struggled to get the vocals anywhere near..... so I let him be the main person...... people come up to me after the show saying the guitar was way to loud and needed to be turned down. most of them were shocked when I said he wasn&#039;t in the PA and I had No control over it. No way was I going to red line the rig to get a over loud painful mix.&nbsp; I had asked him to turn down during the day and was told in no minced words to &quot;F&amp;£* off&quot;. I was happy people commented on the bad sound that day.Ok Rant over lol</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kim Watson, post: 56966, member: 41"] Re: Earplugs and loud bands This is becoming quite the phenomenon over here too. The musicians are going to music college and are being told to get some proper Earplugs to protect their hearing when playing live and proceed to ask for it to be 15db louder to compensate for the level drop caused by the earplugs in the first place creating the same level as would be without the plugs. I can understand why, long term time stood next to a drummers cymbals = loss in that region of hearing but this is where the move to IEM should be made instead. They are being miss educated out there. I'm seeing this more and more. Also with the younger engineers wearing plugs and mixing 15 - 20db louder so they can hear it..... Its crazy. Why not just do the sensible thing and TURN IT DOWN to start with. I've always had the mix philosophy that if its too loud for me its too loud for everyone else and try to reign in the volume levels. and in smaller venues playing the lets remove these instruments form the rig because they are just too loud. I once had a guitarist who was from an old time band have his guitar so loud it hurt..... I mixed the band tidy but quieter underneath but struggled to get the vocals anywhere near..... so I let him be the main person...... people come up to me after the show saying the guitar was way to loud and needed to be turned down. most of them were shocked when I said he wasn't in the PA and I had No control over it. No way was I going to red line the rig to get a over loud painful mix. I had asked him to turn down during the day and was told in no minced words to "F&£* off". I was happy people commented on the bad sound that day. Ok Rant over lol [/QUOTE]

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