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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Cagle" data-source="post: 92728" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>Re: EDM Shows</p><p></p><p>Bring much more PA than you think you need, especially sub. Honestly I have never had a DJ come close to maxing out any system I have supplied. Don't tell anybody but I used to be a DJ as a side job many years ago and I sort of know what to expect. I always tell them to have fun but lets try not to hurt anybody because I brought enough rig to easily do it. It is when you are underpowered that bad stuff happens with EDM. It is amazing how responsible all of the many DJ's I have worked with have been when it comes to volume, even the really young ones. Yes the shows are loud but if your rig is tuned well for the room and is clear an amazing thing happens........they don't feel the need to push it so hard. </p><p></p><p>The thing to be aware of with a lot of the current dubstep tracks is how low some of the fundamental tones are. There is often actually major content below 30hz. This is where the subwoofer headroom comes into play. You don't really hear it but everybody in the room will sure feel it. If the system is dropping off like a rock below 50hz then some DJ's will try to push the bass to get that "feel" happening. What they end up with is a distorted muddy mess. When you have a rig capable of pushing enough air flat down into the 30hz range that amazing thing of being conservative with the volume happens again. Loud and clear will always trump sheer volume, especially with DJ's. </p><p></p><p>Because my larger rig is pretty old school I have to use lots of extra cabinets on the bottom and tune it to be flat lower at the expense of total bottom end headroom to match the output of the tops. That is how I handle it with what I have to work with.</p><p></p><p>The only console riders I have seen to date had to do with a specific DJ type mixer but most everyone is carrying their own stuff and are only requesting the number and type of inputs. Yes these gigs really are simple compared to shows involving bands if you have enough headroom to work with. I will add that I have seen a few DJ's lately touring with a live drummer and often a keyboardist and other musicians.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Cagle, post: 92728, member: 277"] Re: EDM Shows Bring much more PA than you think you need, especially sub. Honestly I have never had a DJ come close to maxing out any system I have supplied. Don't tell anybody but I used to be a DJ as a side job many years ago and I sort of know what to expect. I always tell them to have fun but lets try not to hurt anybody because I brought enough rig to easily do it. It is when you are underpowered that bad stuff happens with EDM. It is amazing how responsible all of the many DJ's I have worked with have been when it comes to volume, even the really young ones. Yes the shows are loud but if your rig is tuned well for the room and is clear an amazing thing happens........they don't feel the need to push it so hard. The thing to be aware of with a lot of the current dubstep tracks is how low some of the fundamental tones are. There is often actually major content below 30hz. This is where the subwoofer headroom comes into play. You don't really hear it but everybody in the room will sure feel it. If the system is dropping off like a rock below 50hz then some DJ's will try to push the bass to get that "feel" happening. What they end up with is a distorted muddy mess. When you have a rig capable of pushing enough air flat down into the 30hz range that amazing thing of being conservative with the volume happens again. Loud and clear will always trump sheer volume, especially with DJ's. Because my larger rig is pretty old school I have to use lots of extra cabinets on the bottom and tune it to be flat lower at the expense of total bottom end headroom to match the output of the tops. That is how I handle it with what I have to work with. The only console riders I have seen to date had to do with a specific DJ type mixer but most everyone is carrying their own stuff and are only requesting the number and type of inputs. Yes these gigs really are simple compared to shows involving bands if you have enough headroom to work with. I will add that I have seen a few DJ's lately touring with a live drummer and often a keyboardist and other musicians. [/QUOTE]
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