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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 85225" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Equipment rumor millThere are quite a few Danley products that do not have &quot;normal&quot; impedances-yet the numbers assigned to them are the &quot;normal&quot; ones that people know and love and &quot;understand&quot;.But we also provide a impedance graph so the &quot;more educated&quot; user can really see what is going on.Some new products have a 8 ohm &quot;rating&quot; but really they present more of a 10-12 ohm load to the amp.&nbsp; So the &quot;educated&quot; user can easily determine what sort of load the amp is really seeing.&nbsp; The people who don&#039;t look very far at least have a harder time messing things up this way.Hence the reason for providing ACTUAL DATA.And if they are not going to provide actual data-then how about some MEASURED-NOT SIMULATED!!! data from a bunch of different mic positions in a typical venue?&nbsp; Up close-far away-off to the side and so forth.&nbsp; Then compare that data to the predicted data and see how well it lines up?&nbsp; At least that gives somewhat of an idea of performance.But to simply say &quot;you can do anything you want with it&quot; -is a bunch of bologna if you ask me/&nbsp; Let&#039;s see something to back it up-that is REAL and not simulated.Remember that a prediction is only as good (if it is lucky) as the data it is based on.&nbsp; And if there is no data------------------you get my point.There are all sorts of &quot;games&quot; that you can play with prediction programs.&nbsp; Understanding that is a good start towards reality.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 85225, member: 30"] Re: Equipment rumor mill There are quite a few Danley products that do not have "normal" impedances-yet the numbers assigned to them are the "normal" ones that people know and love and "understand". But we also provide a impedance graph so the "more educated" user can really see what is going on. Some new products have a 8 ohm "rating" but really they present more of a 10-12 ohm load to the amp. So the "educated" user can easily determine what sort of load the amp is really seeing. The people who don't look very far at least have a harder time messing things up this way. Hence the reason for providing ACTUAL DATA. And if they are not going to provide actual data-then how about some MEASURED-NOT SIMULATED!!! data from a bunch of different mic positions in a typical venue? Up close-far away-off to the side and so forth. Then compare that data to the predicted data and see how well it lines up? At least that gives somewhat of an idea of performance. But to simply say "you can do anything you want with it" -is a bunch of bologna if you ask me/ Let's see something to back it up-that is REAL and not simulated. Remember that a prediction is only as good (if it is lucky) as the data it is based on. And if there is no data------------------you get my point. There are all sorts of "games" that you can play with prediction programs. Understanding that is a good start towards reality. [/QUOTE]

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