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<blockquote data-quote="Rasmus Rosenberg" data-source="post: 42006" data-attributes="member: 886"><p>Re: First post for me</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Times'">Hey Timo, </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Times'">Got you PM. What I mean is what are the "relationship" between the "sonic impact" that we perceive as a lack of "transient response" in cardiod subwoofer configurations compared to a conventional stack of sub woofers. And how does it show up in the different measurements. Im sure its a myriad of things and yes I'm out of line trying to measure a subjective listing experience, but I think most will agree that some/most cardio subwoofer arrays does sound different (and most seem to think worst) than a "normal" stack of sub woofers. And as we offend defend the design by promoting the benefits of reduced level at the back etc, the disadvantages (if any?) are offend "overlooked". So I guess my question is what designs works and sounds the best, and are we able to see why in the measurements? </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Times'">The other question was; does any one have measurement data from touring with center stacked arced (or dly arced) arrays of what happens when people join the equation. Two questions (if there are any differences): What happens on stage? What happens at FOH (in the audience), and are there any relationships between a minimum distance to stage vs distance to audience for it to work (at x frequency) etc. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Times'">All this came up because i got a lot of people call and say that center stacked cardio subwoofer arrays don't work, and I have always promoted them to a good extend. What happens is that either they sounds bad (what ever that means right?) or when people come in all the sub bounces back on stage creating horrible feedback etc. So people change there riders to L/R sub only! and I think thats a sad evolution... That said the few times i have deployed center stacked og any cardio sub design i have been pleased with both sound quality and rejections, and have not the problems. But not being able to do a direct A/B comparison it will be hard to judge witch is better. </span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Times'"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rasmus Rosenberg, post: 42006, member: 886"] Re: First post for me [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Times]Hey Timo, Got you PM. What I mean is what are the "relationship" between the "sonic impact" that we perceive as a lack of "transient response" in cardiod subwoofer configurations compared to a conventional stack of sub woofers. And how does it show up in the different measurements. Im sure its a myriad of things and yes I'm out of line trying to measure a subjective listing experience, but I think most will agree that some/most cardio subwoofer arrays does sound different (and most seem to think worst) than a "normal" stack of sub woofers. And as we offend defend the design by promoting the benefits of reduced level at the back etc, the disadvantages (if any?) are offend "overlooked". So I guess my question is what designs works and sounds the best, and are we able to see why in the measurements? The other question was; does any one have measurement data from touring with center stacked arced (or dly arced) arrays of what happens when people join the equation. Two questions (if there are any differences): What happens on stage? What happens at FOH (in the audience), and are there any relationships between a minimum distance to stage vs distance to audience for it to work (at x frequency) etc. All this came up because i got a lot of people call and say that center stacked cardio subwoofer arrays don't work, and I have always promoted them to a good extend. What happens is that either they sounds bad (what ever that means right?) or when people come in all the sub bounces back on stage creating horrible feedback etc. So people change there riders to L/R sub only! and I think thats a sad evolution... That said the few times i have deployed center stacked og any cardio sub design i have been pleased with both sound quality and rejections, and have not the problems. But not being able to do a direct A/B comparison it will be hard to judge witch is better. [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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