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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 35574" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: Gibson raidedIt&#039;s unpopular with me... because it&#039;s vague and demonizing business without offering facts or a solution.I am in favor of closing tax loop holes that many big corporations have engineered for themselves over the years through lobbyists and crony capitalism with those in office, so we can then lower tax rates for everybody else and still collect more taxes overall. There is no reason to raise Mark&#039;s taxes because GM or GE doesn&#039;t pay the nominal rate. There are proposals to this end being made by some. Lower the tax rate but make everybody pay that same rate... the government gets more and Mark pays less.. ------Why are you against fair trade?. I buy fair trade coffee and as far as I can tell it helps the small coffee growers in south and central america get a better price for their crops. You are in good company though. The Adam Smith institute is opposed to fair trade too, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s effective enough to cause the issues that the Adam Smith types fear (over production). Do you mean you&#039;re against free trade? I&#039;m not against free trade either. I don&#039;t like playing with a stacked deck or loaded dice. I prefer a level playing field so everybody can compete on the same basis with the same rules. I am not even slightly curious about which group you lump me in with for daring to not agree with you. BTW I don&#039;t think becoming a lobbyist has much to do with espousing one belief system or the other. It&#039;s more being willing to promote somebody else&#039;s agenda for a fee, and then only after you have access the the people with their hands on the levers of power. Not exactly prostitution because only the taxpayers get f*sked, without even the dinner or movie.&nbsp; Note: While lobbying is a form of protected speech, that doesn&#039;t mean the legislators have to be so accommodating. They need to represent the people in their district, not their golf foursome.JR</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 35574, member: 126"] Re: Gibson raided It's unpopular with me... because it's vague and demonizing business without offering facts or a solution. I am in favor of closing tax loop holes that many big corporations have engineered for themselves over the years through lobbyists and crony capitalism with those in office, so we can then lower tax rates for everybody else and still collect more taxes overall. There is no reason to raise Mark's taxes because GM or GE doesn't pay the nominal rate. There are proposals to this end being made by some. Lower the tax rate but make everybody pay that same rate... the government gets more and Mark pays less.. ------ Why are you against fair trade?. I buy fair trade coffee and as far as I can tell it helps the small coffee growers in south and central america get a better price for their crops. You are in good company though. The Adam Smith institute is opposed to fair trade too, but I don't think it's effective enough to cause the issues that the Adam Smith types fear (over production). Do you mean you're against free trade? I'm not against free trade either. I don't like playing with a stacked deck or loaded dice. I prefer a level playing field so everybody can compete on the same basis with the same rules. I am not even slightly curious about which group you lump me in with for daring to not agree with you. BTW I don't think becoming a lobbyist has much to do with espousing one belief system or the other. It's more being willing to promote somebody else's agenda for a fee, and then only after you have access the the people with their hands on the levers of power. Not exactly prostitution because only the taxpayers get f*sked, without even the dinner or movie. Note: While lobbying is a form of protected speech, that doesn't mean the legislators have to be so accommodating. They need to represent the people in their district, not their golf foursome. JR [/QUOTE]

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