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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 39015" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: Gibson raidedDeporting 10M+ people is just a straw man argument... It&#039;s not even worth debate since it&#039;s impractical to even consider,&nbsp;but they don&#039;t deserve citizenship just for being here (illegally). So the real discussion is over what kind of deal do they get? Last group got amnesty and we saw how that incentivized more illegal immigration since then. While our legislators dance around the issue they keep rolling across the border. Only the soft economy has slowed the flow slightly but here with a recession is still a better date than saturday night in Juarez. I am repeating myself but we need to come up with some other solution besides a simple get out of jail free card. They broke the law so there needs to be a penalty (fine works for me too), and they need to wait, perhaps let them apply for citizenship at some slow modest rate, say 250k a year, after they pay their fines and maybe do some hard labor wall building down south. Those already here get to wait a long time. New comers after them don&#039;t even get to wait.&nbsp; We need to be compassionate to them, but also to the many other millions legally trying to get here, and reduce the temptation for future generations to make the desert hike. There is a win-win, but it needs to make the illegal hop across the border a bad option, not like today where it is clearly worth the risk. If we make the destination prize less attractive for future illegals, less will come. Simple cause and effect.&nbsp;&nbsp; JR</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 39015, member: 126"] Re: Gibson raided Deporting 10M+ people is just a straw man argument... It's not even worth debate since it's impractical to even consider, but they don't deserve citizenship just for being here (illegally). So the real discussion is over what kind of deal do they get? Last group got amnesty and we saw how that incentivized more illegal immigration since then. While our legislators dance around the issue they keep rolling across the border. Only the soft economy has slowed the flow slightly but here with a recession is still a better date than saturday night in Juarez. I am repeating myself but we need to come up with some other solution besides a simple get out of jail free card. They broke the law so there needs to be a penalty (fine works for me too), and they need to wait, perhaps let them apply for citizenship at some slow modest rate, say 250k a year, after they pay their fines and maybe do some hard labor wall building down south. Those already here get to wait a long time. New comers after them don't even get to wait. We need to be compassionate to them, but also to the many other millions legally trying to get here, and reduce the temptation for future generations to make the desert hike. There is a win-win, but it needs to make the illegal hop across the border a bad option, not like today where it is clearly worth the risk. If we make the destination prize less attractive for future illegals, less will come. Simple cause and effect. JR [/QUOTE]

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