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Good monitor mixing, especially when the band gives up and stops asking for what they need.
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<blockquote data-quote="Paul Johnson" data-source="post: 216548" data-attributes="member: 2643"><p>Why on earth did you not ask them? I've been in a touring band or two for a very long time and one common thing is that when you use IEMs, trusting a venue sound person is a horrible experience if they are not proactive, and post covid some truly dire operators on lovely systems are in the venues. We toured our own system for stage for a long time, so we could have our own mix, but any venue without stage controlled monitors is going to be horrible. If you got something workable it was often worth just saying fine and suffering for a couple of hours. In one band we all had essential needs as the four people all played and sang for every song, and if I got the drummer's vocals in my ears, I could not sing - I needed the keys player for tuning. Some bands you just need a general mix. If the band do not ask for things, and you do not ask them, they'll slag you and the venue off. I cannot understand why at the soundcheck you didn't just say "OK - bass, what do you want in your ears?", then sort it, and move to the next. For general monitoring that's probably enough, but if you are out front, many bands will NOT say to the audience, "can I have a bit more keys in my mix?" one, because it's dangerous - you might think that was the guitarist and wreck his mix,, but leave the person who asked without what they needed, then the guitarist wrecks the next song and asks at the end for the keys to go down and you try to fix it but make not worse. Yuk. Some bands also hate talking about their mix to the audience because it sounds pretentious, when it could be essential.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paul Johnson, post: 216548, member: 2643"] Why on earth did you not ask them? I've been in a touring band or two for a very long time and one common thing is that when you use IEMs, trusting a venue sound person is a horrible experience if they are not proactive, and post covid some truly dire operators on lovely systems are in the venues. We toured our own system for stage for a long time, so we could have our own mix, but any venue without stage controlled monitors is going to be horrible. If you got something workable it was often worth just saying fine and suffering for a couple of hours. In one band we all had essential needs as the four people all played and sang for every song, and if I got the drummer's vocals in my ears, I could not sing - I needed the keys player for tuning. Some bands you just need a general mix. If the band do not ask for things, and you do not ask them, they'll slag you and the venue off. I cannot understand why at the soundcheck you didn't just say "OK - bass, what do you want in your ears?", then sort it, and move to the next. For general monitoring that's probably enough, but if you are out front, many bands will NOT say to the audience, "can I have a bit more keys in my mix?" one, because it's dangerous - you might think that was the guitarist and wreck his mix,, but leave the person who asked without what they needed, then the guitarist wrecks the next song and asks at the end for the keys to go down and you try to fix it but make not worse. Yuk. Some bands also hate talking about their mix to the audience because it sounds pretentious, when it could be essential. [/QUOTE]
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