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<blockquote data-quote="Tim Duffin" data-source="post: 68154" data-attributes="member: 400">Re: Growler and other subsPerhaps you should try something other than the free google patent search.&nbsp; And you are right, L&#039;acoustics may not have any readily viewable US patents, try searching for international patents originating from oh, I don&#039;t know...France?!.&nbsp; This would probably require that you speak a language other than English and have access to more than a home internet connection.&nbsp; And your statement about JBL not having &quot;more than a handful&quot; -- are you sure about that or are you just limited in your ability to view patents based on your limited tools?I don&#039;t buy this &quot;what matters is the end product&quot; crap.&nbsp; If any design can be easily and readily copied, no matter how much you like the guy building it, it sucks.&nbsp; Nobody copies the JBL Vertec line array because they simply can&#039;t do it, no matter how many resources they have they will never be able to match the manufacturing experience of JBL.&nbsp; At some point, a company with leading edge technology will have to design and manufacture the machines used to design and manufacture their products, making contract manufacturing irrelevant and outdated.&nbsp; But, making junk with contract manufacturers and then reselling that junk at a profit by claiming that it is &quot;custom&quot; to hide its true origin is a very common business model in China.&nbsp; One would think the technique of all marketing, no manufacturing would be limited to developing countries.&nbsp; Guess its not.&nbsp; I&#039;ll sell you some &quot;custom&quot; airbags for your car if you are interested-- maybe you would be interested in &quot;custom&quot; beef from BPI?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim Duffin, post: 68154, member: 400"] Re: Growler and other subs Perhaps you should try something other than the free google patent search. And you are right, L'acoustics may not have any readily viewable US patents, try searching for international patents originating from oh, I don't know...France?!. This would probably require that you speak a language other than English and have access to more than a home internet connection. And your statement about JBL not having "more than a handful" -- are you sure about that or are you just limited in your ability to view patents based on your limited tools? I don't buy this "what matters is the end product" crap. If any design can be easily and readily copied, no matter how much you like the guy building it, it sucks. Nobody copies the JBL Vertec line array because they simply can't do it, no matter how many resources they have they will never be able to match the manufacturing experience of JBL. At some point, a company with leading edge technology will have to design and manufacture the machines used to design and manufacture their products, making contract manufacturing irrelevant and outdated. But, making junk with contract manufacturers and then reselling that junk at a profit by claiming that it is "custom" to hide its true origin is a very common business model in China. One would think the technique of all marketing, no manufacturing would be limited to developing countries. Guess its not. I'll sell you some "custom" airbags for your car if you are interested-- maybe you would be interested in "custom" beef from BPI? [/QUOTE]

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