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Help a club pick a console to replace an aging Crest VX.
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<blockquote data-quote="Marsellus Fariss" data-source="post: 76837" data-attributes="member: 1107"><p>Re: Help a club pick a console to replace an aging Crest VX.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh yea that's why I put in a Klark DN3600! So pleasant to save noise boys hacked to death curve and recall a flat one to mix the other acts and hear everything spring back to life. ahhhhh!</p><p></p><p>So much of what we do in clubland is making things noise boy proof that it means compromise in how we house guys work and the gear we put in. I may never use outboard EQ's if I had a new Pro 2 but green engy's who've never flown one don't need to spend half the soundcheck remembering how to call up the graphs. Nor do I want to have to pay an A2 to stand around and tech FOH for a Tuesday show that sold 50 tickets because said noise boy is helpless. It happens enough already with a standard analogue rig. So I'd have graphs and probably an M-One patched in even if I never use them. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's exactly where I'm at. The hunt is still on and we're getting closer to buy time. </p><p></p><p>Here's the narrowed down criteria:</p><p></p><p>at least 40 mono's</p><p>at least 8 groups</p><p>at least 8 auxes</p><p>4 sweepable bands w/ a variable highpass</p><p>mute groups</p><p>sounds very good</p><p>still serviceable </p><p>5k or under</p><p></p><p>I love VCA's as much as the next guy but I can live without them. And honestly most of the BE's that come through don't even use them. I've had guys ask me how to pan them. That's the world I live in. </p><p></p><p>We're most likely going to wind up with either a MH or a Verona. Both can be had for 5K and under all day long and both are reliable. In some ways I would prefer a Verona because it sounds like a Midas and because it's dead simple any hack can fly it without asking any questions. In some ways I'd prefer the MH because it's more feature rich with VCA's, Q controls etc..</p><p></p><p>I'm not gonna rule out a Legend for us house guys. We do up to 6 mixes from FOH more often then we get to fire up the monitor desk. I would love it. And it sounds like a Midas. But once again.. If me or my A2 aren't available for a show and I need to call in the second string guys the complicated Legend could cause almost as many headaches in clubland as an unfamiliar digital console with no outboard. So I'm really on the fence about that one. If one floats along in our budget I'd probably go get it and see what happens.</p><p></p><p>What I really want is a big Venice f with 40 inputs, 8 groups, 8 auxes and a variable HPF. I've had my f 32 in the club the last few days doing small shows before our insane February starts and I really love it except for the limitations. I don't think they're going to make one though. Those days are over. Even though the original Venice was their best selling console of all time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marsellus Fariss, post: 76837, member: 1107"] Re: Help a club pick a console to replace an aging Crest VX. Oh yea that's why I put in a Klark DN3600! So pleasant to save noise boys hacked to death curve and recall a flat one to mix the other acts and hear everything spring back to life. ahhhhh! So much of what we do in clubland is making things noise boy proof that it means compromise in how we house guys work and the gear we put in. I may never use outboard EQ's if I had a new Pro 2 but green engy's who've never flown one don't need to spend half the soundcheck remembering how to call up the graphs. Nor do I want to have to pay an A2 to stand around and tech FOH for a Tuesday show that sold 50 tickets because said noise boy is helpless. It happens enough already with a standard analogue rig. So I'd have graphs and probably an M-One patched in even if I never use them. That's exactly where I'm at. The hunt is still on and we're getting closer to buy time. Here's the narrowed down criteria: at least 40 mono's at least 8 groups at least 8 auxes 4 sweepable bands w/ a variable highpass mute groups sounds very good still serviceable 5k or under I love VCA's as much as the next guy but I can live without them. And honestly most of the BE's that come through don't even use them. I've had guys ask me how to pan them. That's the world I live in. We're most likely going to wind up with either a MH or a Verona. Both can be had for 5K and under all day long and both are reliable. In some ways I would prefer a Verona because it sounds like a Midas and because it's dead simple any hack can fly it without asking any questions. In some ways I'd prefer the MH because it's more feature rich with VCA's, Q controls etc.. I'm not gonna rule out a Legend for us house guys. We do up to 6 mixes from FOH more often then we get to fire up the monitor desk. I would love it. And it sounds like a Midas. But once again.. If me or my A2 aren't available for a show and I need to call in the second string guys the complicated Legend could cause almost as many headaches in clubland as an unfamiliar digital console with no outboard. So I'm really on the fence about that one. If one floats along in our budget I'd probably go get it and see what happens. What I really want is a big Venice f with 40 inputs, 8 groups, 8 auxes and a variable HPF. I've had my f 32 in the club the last few days doing small shows before our insane February starts and I really love it except for the limitations. I don't think they're going to make one though. Those days are over. Even though the original Venice was their best selling console of all time. [/QUOTE]
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