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<blockquote data-quote="Kip Conner" data-source="post: 72041" data-attributes="member: 445">Re: Help me understand &#039;Riders&#039;One of the biggest problems I see when it comes to riders is copying and pasting someone else&#039;s rider. Occasionally I&#039;ll get up and coming artists from Nashville who share the same agent or mgmt with an established artist. The mgmt just took the other rider and copied the specs. So I get a long list of things they want and then tell me they don&#039;t even have an engineer traveling with the act!If you own a venue and you want to keep it rider friendly- make sure you have a console that can be edited offline and a house tech that knows everything there is to know about the console. I have never been a fan of the term &#039;rider friendly&#039; or &#039;industry standard&#039; but there are clearly some consoles that fit the bill better than others. If you give me a Yamaha or Avid console than I know those systems well enough to do whatever I need to do without much help. When I use console like the iLive I don&#039;t know it well enough and it seems the house guys don&#039;t either. It&#039;s really disheartening to be told no that the iLive won&#039;t do something my LS9 will do like insert a 31 Graph into a vocal channel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kip Conner, post: 72041, member: 445"] Re: Help me understand 'Riders' One of the biggest problems I see when it comes to riders is copying and pasting someone else's rider. Occasionally I'll get up and coming artists from Nashville who share the same agent or mgmt with an established artist. The mgmt just took the other rider and copied the specs. So I get a long list of things they want and then tell me they don't even have an engineer traveling with the act! If you own a venue and you want to keep it rider friendly- make sure you have a console that can be edited offline and a house tech that knows everything there is to know about the console. I have never been a fan of the term 'rider friendly' or 'industry standard' but there are clearly some consoles that fit the bill better than others. If you give me a Yamaha or Avid console than I know those systems well enough to do whatever I need to do without much help. When I use console like the iLive I don't know it well enough and it seems the house guys don't either. It's really disheartening to be told no that the iLive won't do something my LS9 will do like insert a 31 Graph into a vocal channel. [/QUOTE]

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