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<blockquote data-quote="Steve Anderson" data-source="post: 76395" data-attributes="member: 630">Re: How do I determine how much to charge for permanent venue hire?I know you&#039;ve said you&#039;re going to cut and run, but for the future Lisa, in Australia, and this is fairly new, we have whats called the Personal Property Securities Register. All your gear (that which you ever hire to someone, or leave at someone else&#039;s premises) should be on that register. It makes it *much* easier to prove it&#039;s yours if/when someone else decides to &quot;cut and run&quot; with YOUR GEAR! Or a financial institution &quot;changes the locks&quot; on the other party&#039;s business.Personally, I would probably only register the gear for a sale/installation in progress, or for a long-term hire (especially to a club/restaurant)This was brought to my attention just recently in Australia when a rare guitar company went under. They were storing collectible guitars for people, and also had some on consignment... The liquidators/receivers came in and took control and seized the assets. Those people now face an uphill battle to get their guitars back. They all undoubtedly have paperwork &quot;proving&quot; ownership, but not being on the PPS Register... ?? who knows <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />~:-(~:sad:<a href="http://www.ppsr.gov.au/AbouttheRegister/Business/Pages/default.aspx" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.ppsr.gov.au/AbouttheRegister/Business/Pages/default.aspx" target="_blank">PPSR Aust Govt site here</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steve Anderson, post: 76395, member: 630"] Re: How do I determine how much to charge for permanent venue hire? I know you've said you're going to cut and run, but for the future Lisa, in Australia, and this is fairly new, we have whats called the Personal Property Securities Register. [I]All[/I] your gear (that which you ever hire to someone, or leave at someone else's premises) should be on that register. It makes it [I]*much*[/I] easier to prove it's yours if/when someone else decides to "cut and run" with YOUR GEAR! Or a financial institution "changes the locks" on the other party's business. Personally, I would probably only register the gear for a sale/installation in progress, or for a long-term hire (especially to a club/restaurant) This was brought to my attention just recently in Australia when a rare guitar company went under. They were storing collectible guitars for people, and also had some on consignment... The liquidators/receivers came in and took control and seized the assets. Those people now face an uphill battle to get their guitars back. They all undoubtedly have paperwork "proving" ownership, but not being on the PPS Register... ?? who knows :(~:-(~:sad:[URL="http://www.ppsr.gov.au/AbouttheRegister/Business/Pages/default.aspx"] PPSR Aust Govt site here[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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