I wish....

Jan 12, 2011
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Hello,

Another rant. I wish these Audio gear manufacturers would stop advertising gear that's not even available. I'm not talking about prototypes or feelers at trade shows, I'm talking about real Advertisements in trade magazines.

Hammer
 
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There's probably an element of "spoiling", if you advertise your upcoming product now, even if it isn't going to ship for months, it may be enough for customers to hold off and not buy from your competitor in the meantime.
 
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There's probably an element of "spoiling", if you advertise your upcoming product now, even if it isn't going to ship for months, it may be enough for customers to hold off and not buy from your competitor in the meantime.

or if your competitor is racing to build the same thing, consumers will think you were the originator, even if yours actually gets to market later..

Jason
 
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There's probably an element of "spoiling", if you advertise your upcoming product now, even if it isn't going to ship for months, it may be enough for customers to hold off and not buy from your competitor in the meantime.

Hello,
That's the problem I'm having with this "marketing" technique... they're NOT advertising the products as an UPCOMING product. These manufacturers give the impression that the product is available at the time the advertisement is released.

There are laws in regards to false advertisement/fraud in the States, as I'm also sure of many other Countries.

Hammer
 
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Hello,
That's the problem I'm having with this "marketing" technique... they're NOT advertising the products as an UPCOMING product. These manufacturers give the impression that the product is available at the time the advertisement is released.

There are laws in regards to false advertisement/fraud in the States, as I'm also sure of many other Countries.

Hammer

I don't know that this is strictly fraud if they don't actually sell these products that don't exist yet.

The original inventor of "vaporware" (I guess for recent history.. since it's probably an older idea) was IBM who made strategic product announcements to damp sales of competing (smaller company) products. Customers would almost always wait for the similar offering from the established vendor, rather than change mainframe horses mid stream. IBM get their d__k slammed in the door by anti-trust regulators.

I have had my share of knock down arguments about when to show new products at trade shows, and lost most of those arguments. Upper management believes showing the product sooner will put pressure on everybody to make it come out of the pipeline faster (it doesn't IMO). Upper management viewed trade shows as a form of warfare, so wanted as many new soldiers as possible to defend the castle. Placing paid magazine ads for product you can't sell, makes zero sense for direct marketing to end users, It only makes sense to influence distribution, to get them to place larger back orders.

or not... glad I'm out of that rat race...

JR
 
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This is also responsible for the large amount of updates etc early versions of sofware driven devices as designers and production people end up doing their later stages of beta testing in the public domain There was gas boiler over here that was rushed onto the market with lots of stupid manufacturing errors wich has meant even though the latest models are fine nobody in the trade will buy them unless there is a huge discount, and every other boiler in their range is now viewed with extreme suspicion even if they are completly unrelated, ruined a hard won reputation almost overnight. G
 
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Hello,

Another rant. I wish these Audio gear manufacturers would stop advertising gear that's not even available. I'm not talking about prototypes or feelers at trade shows, I'm talking about real Advertisements in trade magazines.

Hammer

Perhaps I can speak from the manufacturer's point of view. My goal, as the person that places much of the advertising for the company where I work, is to always time the ads to "hit the streets" right when the product actually comes out. This way, there is no potential lost. By potential, I mean interest in the product, actual sales of the product, and competitive intel. For instance, if a product is advertised too early, the competitors find out, the potential market learns of it and then becomes interested. However, since it is not out yet, the competitors can craft a response, and the buying market loses interest.

If the advertising starts too late, some of the potential sales of the product might be lost as well. A "soft launch" can work, but can also forfeit the "excitement" a well timed launch can generate.

All of that said, getting the timing right can be tricky. To place an ad in print, for instance, some magazines require the art 2 months in advance of the street date. So then a decision has to be made: when will the product actually be finished? Often times this is a "best guess" on the part of the company. Sometimes this guess can be horribly wrong for all sorts of unforeseen circumstances. I've been through this dozens, maybe hundreds of times in my career and I can tell you it's not fun to see your ad dollars wasted while some ridiculous part from an unreliable supplier holds everything up.

Of course it's possible that some companies want to "prep the market" or spoil the waters for the competition by announcing early.
 
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As someone who sells product, I have had my manufacturer show stuff at a trade show that was not available for a long time.
It slowed down interest. People would call to see if it was available. In the end, less people had interest in the product when it finally came out.

Things are much better now. But even recently a product was shelved because the neo went up faster than the product could withstand.
It has not existed anywhere for over a year, but people still remember it and ask.

Regards, Jack