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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 48719" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: I wish....I don&#039;t know that this is strictly fraud if they don&#039;t actually sell these products that don&#039;t exist yet. The original inventor of &quot;vaporware&quot; (I guess for recent history.. since it&#039;s probably an older idea) was IBM who made strategic product announcements to damp sales of competing (smaller company) products. Customers would almost always wait for the similar offering from the established vendor, rather than change mainframe horses mid stream. IBM get their d__k slammed in the door by anti-trust regulators.I have had my share of knock down arguments about when to show new products at trade shows, and lost most of those arguments. Upper management believes showing the product sooner will put pressure on everybody to make it come out of the pipeline faster (it doesn&#039;t IMO). Upper management viewed trade shows as a form of warfare, so wanted as many new soldiers as possible to defend the castle. Placing paid magazine ads for product you can&#039;t sell, makes zero sense for direct marketing to end users, It only makes sense to influence distribution, to get them to place larger back orders. or not... glad I&#039;m out of that rat race... JR</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 48719, member: 126"] Re: I wish.... I don't know that this is strictly fraud if they don't actually sell these products that don't exist yet. The original inventor of "vaporware" (I guess for recent history.. since it's probably an older idea) was IBM who made strategic product announcements to damp sales of competing (smaller company) products. Customers would almost always wait for the similar offering from the established vendor, rather than change mainframe horses mid stream. IBM get their d__k slammed in the door by anti-trust regulators. I have had my share of knock down arguments about when to show new products at trade shows, and lost most of those arguments. Upper management believes showing the product sooner will put pressure on everybody to make it come out of the pipeline faster (it doesn't IMO). Upper management viewed trade shows as a form of warfare, so wanted as many new soldiers as possible to defend the castle. Placing paid magazine ads for product you can't sell, makes zero sense for direct marketing to end users, It only makes sense to influence distribution, to get them to place larger back orders. or not... glad I'm out of that rat race... JR [/QUOTE]

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