(Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Steve Hurt

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Hey all,

I'm putting on a mini sound man get together in Indianapolis

The group is a facebook group called "Indy Sound Techs"
99% of us will be from central Indiana, but all are welcome
Please message me if you intend to come, especially if you want to bring gear.
Space for gear is limited, so we need to know in advance what is coming
Don't hesitate to contact me via PM, or e-mail
steve at floodstagestudio dot com

The event is on Monday November 19, from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
It's at the Irving Theater at 5505 E Washington Street, Indianapolis IN 46219

We are focusing on comparing speakers that "mere mortals" use in club situations.
SRX/QRX/Yorkville U15/UCS1/etc etc

A very short description of what we'll be doing is

Monday, November 19, 2012
8:00am until 5:00pm

Indy Sound Techs group gathering to listen to club size PA gear

1) FOH speakers - compare rigs in use in clubs
1-b (assuming time and interest) Sub comparison
2) Monitor shootout - compare monitors being used in clubs
3) Kik drum mic demo - Mic up a drum kit and try different kik drum combos and see what works

I'll try to post a more detailed description later, but I wanted to get up a note about the event now.
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Some of the speakers confirmed for the FOH portion are

- SRX 728/722
- SRX728/725
- QSC KW 181x2 / QSC KW 153 (powered)
- JTR Orbit Shifter / Triple 12x
- still working on QRX 212/218
- U15/U215 coming (working on UCS1's)
- Mackie swa1801 x 2 / sa1530z
- Community RS220 tops / Wharfdale QRX subs

Jeff from JTR says he will be there with his new Neosis speakers!!!

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Boards that will be there:

-X32
- Studio Live 24.4.2
- LS9 16

May have an extra X32 set up later in the day

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Monitors (just getting started on this)

- SRX 712
- Yamaha Club 15
- Mackie SRM450
- JTR Triple 8

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Kick drum micing

- D6
- Beta 52
- D112
- Beta 91
- SM57
- etc etc
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

I'm interested in this. I'm coming from Columbus OH. I could bring my EAW rig (maybe nobody interested?) KF-650e over SB-750 subs. EAW LA-215 monitors
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Any chance of a set of Yorkie Paralines being added?
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Here's the current lineup for the

"Indy Sound Techs - Speaker Shootout"

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FOH Speaker Shootout

Rig 1 Mackie swa1801 - sa1530z
Rig 2 JBL MRX 528 - Yorkville Unity U215
Rig 3 VRX918s - VRX932LA
Rig 4 PRX 618xlf - Yamaha DSR 112
Rig 5 EV QRX 218 - JBL SRX 715
Rig 6 SRX 728 - SRX 722
Rig 7 Klipsch KPT682 sub - KPT362 top
Rig 8 Klipsch KPT682sub - Yorkville U15
Rig 9 EV MTL-1x - EV dual 12 tops
Rig 10 Wharfdale QRX - Community RS220
Rig 11 SRX 728 - SRX 725
Rig 12 Orbit Shifter - Neosis3TX
Rig 13 Orbit Shifter - Neosis2AX
Rig 14 Growler - Triple 8
Rig 15 QSC KW181 (x2) - QSC KW153
Rig 16 Yorkville UCS1 - EV QRX212

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Monitor Test

P (assive) model owner
A (active/powered)

P SRX 712m
P JTR Triple 8
P JTR Neosis2AX
A JBL PRX415M
P JBL MRX 512m
A JBL PRX 615m
P Peavey DTH Wedge
A QSC K-12
A Samson Live 612m
P Yamaha S15V
P Custom-made (John Halliburton)

Still need a few more monitors - message me if you want to bring one
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Kick Drum Test

ATM 250
Beta 52
Beta 91
D-12
D-112
D-6
M-88
MD-421
N/D 868
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Consoles
X32 - FOH
SL24.4.2 - Kick Drum
LS9-16 - Monitors

X32 (#2) - Demo
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Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Unfortunately I'm in Alberta Canada. Too far away. I don't own any but could rent some.


But again, too far away.

:(

Alberta is quite the drive from here!!! :-O

Would love to hear that rig. Haven't ever been in the same room with one. Maybe next time!
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

You ask questions I have as well!

I'll know a lot more than I do now next Monday!!!
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

Steve,

Any winners in the FOH speakers or subs?

Art

The JTR Orbit Shifters (A SINGLE 18"!) shifted all the other subs out of orbit. They absolutely destroyed! My JBL SRX 728S, well, after hearing the Orbit Shifters I just went on ahead and turned of my I-Tech 8000.
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

The JTR Orbit Shifters (A SINGLE 18"!) shifted all the other subs out of orbit.
Jeff's JTR Orbit Shifters stole the show. When matched up with the impressive Noesis 3TX top, a single Orbit Shifter was quickly outrun. Adding the second Orbit Shifter, well let's just say, no other rig came close.

Thanks to Steve Hurt for pulling it all together. It was a great opportunity for a newbie to get to compare a lot of gear in a real world setting.

P.S. Jeff, get some more pics on the website of the Orbit Shifters and the Noesis speakers.
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

I will agree the Orbit Shifter was the loudest sub with out a doubt. I wouldn't say it was very musical but a great DJ sub for sure. To be honest I wasn't impressed with any of the subs from a musical standpoint. The only other thing I can say is if you buy Orbit Shifters don't put casters on them unless you like your subs to BUZZZZZZZZZ.
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

They definitely were buzzing. Apparently that old theater didn't have a flat floor.
Normally they rest on the floor and don't act up like that (but they sure did act up!)
Jeff probably should use casters that don't rattle, like the ones you had on your VRX918's (those were nice!)

As for musical, I don't think anything sounded "musical" in that room. (Glad we did it anyway!)
I remember hearing the VRX at the Lab get together a few years ago and being very impressed with them.
In this room, they sounded a bit harsh, which is weird because SMAART clearly showed that they were ruler flat
The main thing I tried to take from this was "how one rig differed from the next" and not as much "which rig sounded best in that room"

(I'm still typing up my notes and hope to post them yet today)
 
Re: (Indianapolis) Indy Sound Tech - Speaker Shootout

btw, Brian was a H-U-G-E help.

He brought:
a VRX rig,
a rack of I-Tech HD's to run the monitor shootout,
a new Shure wireless that sounded like a wire,
and he ran the board during the monitor test, showing me things I didn't know my LS9 would do

It wouldn't have been half the success it was without Brian and the guys from Sounds Cool Audio.