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<blockquote data-quote="Arthur Skudra" data-source="post: 56243" data-attributes="member: 131">Re: Infocomm?Yeah, I attended the all day marketing powow on AVB on Tuesday, they still have a lot of work to do before video is viable on AVB, but as the years progress and 10G and 100G networks become more commonplace, perhaps we can squeeze a few HD video channels on the network.&nbsp; But video broadcasters are a finicky bunch, and they will have to be dragged kicking and screaming before widespread adoption will occur with network video.&nbsp; In the meantime, I wouldn&#039;t risk my projects on hopes for interoperability between manufacturers until they start testing and certifying devices, hopefully next year it will be ready for prime time, but until then only single manufacturer AVB solutions may work.&nbsp; I know, they said that last year.....&nbsp; Keep in mind, pro audio is just a tiny market segment of AVB, we&#039;re used to being ignored by the big boys, and I find the silence from Cisco re: AVB to be disconcerting...Colour me unimpressed with the Bose demo.&nbsp; Horizontal coverage control in vertical arrays has been around for a number of years, it&#039;s nothing new that Bose would like you to believe.&nbsp; Take a look at the stuff Nexo and Outline have been producing for a number of years.&nbsp; I&#039;d like to give them a benefit of the doubt with the constraints of a small demo room, I&#039;ll reserve judgement on the voicing of the system until I hear it in a real world situation, but I&#039;ve heard better, particularly in the vocal range.&nbsp; Looking at the interior of the box up close, I wasn&#039;t thrilled with the plywood top and bottom that I could bend with my thumb, along with the sloppily glued-on waveguides.&nbsp; Yeah, it&#039;s a permanent install box, but for what they are asking for in price, surely they could have done better with box construction.&nbsp; I&#039;d hate to think that the waveguide could be flapping around with all the vibration close by...I&#039;ve been impressed with the new Iconyx stuff from Renkus Heinz lately, although they are going to face some stiff competition from Meyer with the CAL and EAW&#039;s re-introduced DSA250i.Behold the way of the future.&nbsp; With the exception of really complex high end control interfaces, I&#039;d say the days of $5K+ Crestron and AMX 8 bit control systems are numbered.&nbsp; Everything is trending towards apps that run on iOS or a web browser on touchscreens for a fraction of the price, using 3rd party network controllers capable of outputting IR, serial, GPIO, relay, etc.&nbsp; The tools are out there, available now.&nbsp; If you ever have a chance to sit in on Frank Gonzales training seminars with Lectrosonics, you&#039;d be blown away with what can be done with inexpensive software tools.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arthur Skudra, post: 56243, member: 131"] Re: Infocomm? Yeah, I attended the all day marketing powow on AVB on Tuesday, they still have a lot of work to do before video is viable on AVB, but as the years progress and 10G and 100G networks become more commonplace, perhaps we can squeeze a few HD video channels on the network. But video broadcasters are a finicky bunch, and they will have to be dragged kicking and screaming before widespread adoption will occur with network video. In the meantime, I wouldn't risk my projects on hopes for interoperability between manufacturers until they start testing and certifying devices, hopefully next year it will be ready for prime time, but until then only single manufacturer AVB solutions may work. I know, they said that last year..... Keep in mind, pro audio is just a tiny market segment of AVB, we're used to being ignored by the big boys, and I find the silence from Cisco re: AVB to be disconcerting... Colour me unimpressed with the Bose demo. Horizontal coverage control in vertical arrays has been around for a number of years, it's nothing new that Bose would like you to believe. Take a look at the stuff Nexo and Outline have been producing for a number of years. I'd like to give them a benefit of the doubt with the constraints of a small demo room, I'll reserve judgement on the voicing of the system until I hear it in a real world situation, but I've heard better, particularly in the vocal range. Looking at the interior of the box up close, I wasn't thrilled with the plywood top and bottom that I could bend with my thumb, along with the sloppily glued-on waveguides. Yeah, it's a permanent install box, but for what they are asking for in price, surely they could have done better with box construction. I'd hate to think that the waveguide could be flapping around with all the vibration close by... I've been impressed with the new Iconyx stuff from Renkus Heinz lately, although they are going to face some stiff competition from Meyer with the CAL and EAW's re-introduced DSA250i. Behold the way of the future. With the exception of really complex high end control interfaces, I'd say the days of $5K+ Crestron and AMX 8 bit control systems are numbered. Everything is trending towards apps that run on iOS or a web browser on touchscreens for a fraction of the price, using 3rd party network controllers capable of outputting IR, serial, GPIO, relay, etc. The tools are out there, available now. If you ever have a chance to sit in on Frank Gonzales training seminars with Lectrosonics, you'd be blown away with what can be done with inexpensive software tools. [/QUOTE]

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