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<blockquote data-quote="TJ Cornish" data-source="post: 57977" data-attributes="member: 162">Re: Intermod distortion 2-way vs 3-wayThanks for the reply Peter.&nbsp; I do use a UX8800 in focus mode.&nbsp; I&#039;m generally happy with the performance of the JFL system, but the scope of my potential gigs has expanded.&nbsp; I originally bought the JFLs to do up to 600 people indoors - and that of moderate volume corporate stuff.&nbsp; I&#039;ve expanded into somewhat louder youth conferences that have the potential to be 750+.&nbsp; I&#039;m already borrowing subs to do these larger shows, and am hoping to make a sub purchase decision with a new main system in mind so they will work together.What&#039;s attractive about the NX-L23A is that it&#039;s basically what I have with variable angle capability, and therefore some scale, without giving up the portability I&#039;m used to.&nbsp; I&#039;m struggling with the abominable software and less than awesome technical info I&#039;ve been able to get out of RCF, though I&#039;m encouraged by the reports of the several folks on the forum that have them - particularly David and Hal who moved up from the same JFLs that I&#039;m using to the NX-L23&#039;s.I think I&#039;ve eliminated the HDL-20 as I&#039;ve heard several reports of &quot;not really better than the NX-L23 and some coloration you have to work around&quot;, not to mention the lack of pole mounting.The DB Tech T12 is definitely in the running, as any show that would have a real rider would be out of my league and/or would come with a budget to rent the box du jour.I&#039;m in the classic situation where I need a little bit of scale, but also don&#039;t want to get something so big that it&#039;s too cumbersome to take out for the majority of my shows which are sub 500 people.&nbsp; The T12 is on the line for that since there&#039;s no pole mounting option, and Genies are out of the question for cargo van gigs.&nbsp; I&#039;m told that the T4 pole mount physically connects to the T12, and can be used in a questionable fashion with some kind of strap to hold the back of the box down, but that&#039;s a little sketchy.I&#039;m still interested in the 4886s, as they have the brand name and the support behind them, but they lack the &quot;new generation-ness&quot; in that they require external power.&nbsp; Also, they&#039;re shorter than the T12s so it takes more of them to get the same line length and the benefits of pattern control.&nbsp; Pole mounting the 4886 is easy, and that coupled with the 36lb weight is a big plus.My closest partner in the city is a Nexo shop so cross-renting opportunities abound, but the S8 is a little small for me, and the S12 is more expensive and pretty heavy.I thnk d&amp;b and Turbosound are out of my price range, and I really do need to be careful if at all possible to keep the boxes sized for 250 - 1000 people, rather than larger stuff that&#039;s too big for most of my work.My dream box would be the size of the T12, great sound quality, built-in amplification and DSP, but pole mountable, and with a sticker that either says Nexo or JBL on it, for the price of the Vertec 4886, and with software that actually gives believable results.I have some time before I need to pull the trigger and in the meantime am trying to fill in a few of the MANY holes in my acoustical knowledge, so I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll have more questions. Thanks for all the info so far.&nbsp; Any and all thoughts are appreciated, including any names of the nearest therapists that specialize in my flavor of insanity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TJ Cornish, post: 57977, member: 162"] Re: Intermod distortion 2-way vs 3-way Thanks for the reply Peter. I do use a UX8800 in focus mode. I'm generally happy with the performance of the JFL system, but the scope of my potential gigs has expanded. I originally bought the JFLs to do up to 600 people indoors - and that of moderate volume corporate stuff. I've expanded into somewhat louder youth conferences that have the potential to be 750+. I'm already borrowing subs to do these larger shows, and am hoping to make a sub purchase decision with a new main system in mind so they will work together. What's attractive about the NX-L23A is that it's basically what I have with variable angle capability, and therefore some scale, without giving up the portability I'm used to. I'm struggling with the abominable software and less than awesome technical info I've been able to get out of RCF, though I'm encouraged by the reports of the several folks on the forum that have them - particularly David and Hal who moved up from the same JFLs that I'm using to the NX-L23's. I think I've eliminated the HDL-20 as I've heard several reports of "not really better than the NX-L23 and some coloration you have to work around", not to mention the lack of pole mounting. The DB Tech T12 is definitely in the running, as any show that would have a real rider would be out of my league and/or would come with a budget to rent the box du jour. I'm in the classic situation where I need a little bit of scale, but also don't want to get something so big that it's too cumbersome to take out for the majority of my shows which are sub 500 people. The T12 is on the line for that since there's no pole mounting option, and Genies are out of the question for cargo van gigs. I'm told that the T4 pole mount physically connects to the T12, and can be used in a questionable fashion with some kind of strap to hold the back of the box down, but that's a little sketchy. I'm still interested in the 4886s, as they have the brand name and the support behind them, but they lack the "new generation-ness" in that they require external power. Also, they're shorter than the T12s so it takes more of them to get the same line length and the benefits of pattern control. Pole mounting the 4886 is easy, and that coupled with the 36lb weight is a big plus. My closest partner in the city is a Nexo shop so cross-renting opportunities abound, but the S8 is a little small for me, and the S12 is more expensive and pretty heavy. I thnk d&b and Turbosound are out of my price range, and I really do need to be careful if at all possible to keep the boxes sized for 250 - 1000 people, rather than larger stuff that's too big for most of my work. My dream box would be the size of the T12, great sound quality, built-in amplification and DSP, but pole mountable, and with a sticker that either says Nexo or JBL on it, for the price of the Vertec 4886, and with software that actually gives believable results. I have some time before I need to pull the trigger and in the meantime am trying to fill in a few of the MANY holes in my acoustical knowledge, so I'm sure I'll have more questions. Thanks for all the info so far. Any and all thoughts are appreciated, including any names of the nearest therapists that specialize in my flavor of insanity. [/QUOTE]

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