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<blockquote data-quote="W. Mark Hellinger" data-source="post: 39906" data-attributes="member: 692">Re: Interns, and the use thereofThis summer I hired an 18yo as summer &quot;help&quot;... with the understanding this 18yo had limited marketable job skills. My realization early into his employment (like by 8:02am Monday) was considerably less than expected. At a pay scale of &quot;free&quot;... there&#039;s no question that this employee would have been over-paid. We worked side-by-side on a wide variety of tasks... I out worked him by a routine factor of 100X... I&#039;m 55yo. and busted-up and somewhat healed from head to toe... he&#039;s 18yo and in perfect physical condition... the work peaked at involving arguably very slightly more physical work than punching buttons on a Gameboy. My 18 yo. cat (who sleeps all day) routinely out-produced and arguably out worked the 18yo. male human fashion statement during daylight hours. I paid our 18yo. summer helper minimum wage plus 10%. I reworked appox. 90% of all (what next to nothing there was of it) he &quot;produced&quot;... typically requiring 3X+ the time it would have taken me to do it from scratch in the first place. Training generally involved 10X+++ the time it would have taken to just do it myself. From the beginning it was beyond completely ridiculous... and went steadily down hill from there. He routinely took 2 - 3 hour bathroom breaks... which actually worked out as net positive for me.How much should I have paid this intern? I&#039;m of the impression that I should have charged him (or his folk&#039;s checkbook) about $20K for tuition... and if the state had kicked in their fair share for education from that slush fund... I&#039;d have probably broke even on the deal... all considered.The really sad part of this is that our summer &quot;help&quot; was probably in the upper 5% of his peer group as far as get-er-done attitude, ambition, and skill set.I doubt our fearless leader will read this, much less ask me what I really think about what it&#039;s gonna take to get this country out of it&#039;s funk and awash in career jobs.&nbsp; And I suspect he well knows already... hence the fever for taking potshots at work around solutions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W. Mark Hellinger, post: 39906, member: 692"] Re: Interns, and the use thereof This summer I hired an 18yo as summer "help"... with the understanding this 18yo had limited marketable job skills. My realization early into his employment (like by 8:02am Monday) was considerably less than expected. At a pay scale of "free"... there's no question that this employee would have been over-paid. We worked side-by-side on a wide variety of tasks... I out worked him by a routine factor of 100X... I'm 55yo. and busted-up and somewhat healed from head to toe... he's 18yo and in perfect physical condition... the work peaked at involving arguably very slightly more physical work than punching buttons on a Gameboy. My 18 yo. cat (who sleeps all day) routinely out-produced and arguably out worked the 18yo. male human fashion statement during daylight hours. I paid our 18yo. summer helper minimum wage plus 10%. I reworked appox. 90% of all (what next to nothing there was of it) he "produced"... typically requiring 3X+ the time it would have taken me to do it from scratch in the first place. Training generally involved 10X+++ the time it would have taken to just do it myself. From the beginning it was beyond completely ridiculous... and went steadily down hill from there. He routinely took 2 - 3 hour bathroom breaks... which actually worked out as net positive for me. How much should I have paid this intern? I'm of the impression that I should have charged him (or his folk's checkbook) about $20K for tuition... and if the state had kicked in their fair share for education from that slush fund... I'd have probably broke even on the deal... all considered. The really sad part of this is that our summer "help" was probably in the upper 5% of his peer group as far as get-er-done attitude, ambition, and skill set. I doubt our fearless leader will read this, much less ask me what I really think about what it's gonna take to get this country out of it's funk and awash in career jobs. And I suspect he well knows already... hence the fever for taking potshots at work around solutions. [/QUOTE]

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