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<blockquote data-quote="W. Mark Hellinger" data-source="post: 40020" data-attributes="member: 692"><p>Re: Interns, and the use thereof</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I think you've hit the nail on the head... and put into words what I couldn't with my endless speals.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">IOW: If I want to learn how to do something in the real world... for free if they'll just let me... legally they can't.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I don't know... I wasn't there when it happened... but I suspect there was a time when forced public education was intended to replace private business apprenticeship... possibly lobbied to a large part by big business (get the public to pay for educating our up-coming work force… because we just fought a war and almost got caught with our pants down around our ankles?). Then... after time, the public education system veered away from cranking out job ready graduates... and now there's a problem that neither the public education system nor the apprentice system are cranking out job ready graduates.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This might be a silly question, maybe not... I don't know "the law"... but here goes:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It appears that it's illegal to have anyone engaged in an activity where the person doing the work is paid less than minimum wage to do that activity if someone else is benefiting from that activity. If so, then how does that effect all sorts of amateurs or others that, for example, might be performing at a club or event, where the club or event is profiting from the activity but the amateur or otherwise might be performing for free or a price that is well below minimum wage? Is it illegal for me to mow my neighbor's lawn for free... even if she's a crippled-up widow that can't do it for herself and she's on a fixed income and can't afford to pay a professional to mow her lawn? Am I risking being cuffed and hauled to jail and my lawnmower confisicated?</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And... if apprenticeship programs fell to the wayside of public education sometime during the industrial revolution... where-up public education was producing the work force life skills in the masses, but during the social revolution of the 60's, 70's, and 80's, public education shifted away from preparing students for employment... maybe all that stuff has or is falling through the cracks... maybe because it's no-longer needed? Or maybe getting a degree in your mid 20’s and then starting in on being job trained at an entry level in the work force is fine... but I suspect that results in a job training that's fairly narrowly focused... which sounds like a high potential for evolutionary obsolescence to me.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="W. Mark Hellinger, post: 40020, member: 692"] Re: Interns, and the use thereof [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]I think you've hit the nail on the head... and put into words what I couldn't with my endless speals. IOW: If I want to learn how to do something in the real world... for free if they'll just let me... legally they can't. I don't know... I wasn't there when it happened... but I suspect there was a time when forced public education was intended to replace private business apprenticeship... possibly lobbied to a large part by big business (get the public to pay for educating our up-coming work force… because we just fought a war and almost got caught with our pants down around our ankles?). Then... after time, the public education system veered away from cranking out job ready graduates... and now there's a problem that neither the public education system nor the apprentice system are cranking out job ready graduates. This might be a silly question, maybe not... I don't know "the law"... but here goes: [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]It appears that it's illegal to have anyone engaged in an activity where the person doing the work is paid less than minimum wage to do that activity if someone else is benefiting from that activity. If so, then how does that effect all sorts of amateurs or others that, for example, might be performing at a club or event, where the club or event is profiting from the activity but the amateur or otherwise might be performing for free or a price that is well below minimum wage? Is it illegal for me to mow my neighbor's lawn for free... even if she's a crippled-up widow that can't do it for herself and she's on a fixed income and can't afford to pay a professional to mow her lawn? Am I risking being cuffed and hauled to jail and my lawnmower confisicated? [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]And... if apprenticeship programs fell to the wayside of public education sometime during the industrial revolution... where-up public education was producing the work force life skills in the masses, but during the social revolution of the 60's, 70's, and 80's, public education shifted away from preparing students for employment... maybe all that stuff has or is falling through the cracks... maybe because it's no-longer needed? Or maybe getting a degree in your mid 20’s and then starting in on being job trained at an entry level in the work force is fine... but I suspect that results in a job training that's fairly narrowly focused... which sounds like a high potential for evolutionary obsolescence to me.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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