Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS" data-source="post: 18680" data-attributes="member: 70">Re: Intro to bi-/tri-ampingRyan,&nbsp; I just read about the AP amps and the CS amps and neither seem to work in the same way that the Camco does.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know if we are really helping the OP with this info but it might and it might be important to others in the future.The Camco amps have a microprocessor that controls the input level rather than just compressing it.&nbsp; The CS amp does seem to use some amount of clipping to start the gain reduction of the compression.According to the Yorkville website, with the AP amplifiers you can get appro 2-3 dB more output on subs by defeating their clip limiter.&nbsp; They do not mention the monitoring of waveforms or distortion to start the limiting function.&nbsp; It may be a basic VCA limiter but they don&#039;t really explain it in their manual as quoted below.Limiter SwitchWith the internal limiters activated, the AP6040&#039;s gain is continuously adjusted to fit the signal within the available dynamic range. Occasional clipping is permitted. The limiters will not only help to protect your system&#039;s horns and tweeters, but will automatically make the best use of the available dynamic headroom. With the limiters activated, all you need to do is turn up the signal level until you start to see some clipping. The limiters will make sure that you are getting the maximum clean power output at all times. Setting the switch to the IN position completely disables both limiters.I wouldn&#039;t expect to find all of the exact same types of features in amps that cost a fraction of the Camcos such as the CS or AP amplifiers.&nbsp; I still haven&#039;t read up on the Lab Gruppens or Powersofts but they may have similar protection devices.&nbsp; I&#039;ll have to look those up inthe next couple days.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS, post: 18680, member: 70"] Re: Intro to bi-/tri-amping Ryan, I just read about the AP amps and the CS amps and neither seem to work in the same way that the Camco does. I don't know if we are really helping the OP with this info but it might and it might be important to others in the future. The Camco amps have a microprocessor that controls the input level rather than just compressing it. The CS amp does seem to use some amount of clipping to start the gain reduction of the compression. According to the Yorkville website, with the AP amplifiers you can get appro 2-3 dB more output on subs by defeating their clip limiter. They do not mention the monitoring of waveforms or distortion to start the limiting function. It may be a basic VCA limiter but they don't really explain it in their manual as quoted below. Limiter Switch With the internal limiters activated, the AP6040's gain is continuously adjusted to fit the signal within the available dynamic range. Occasional clipping is permitted. The limiters will not only help to protect your system's horns and tweeters, but will automatically make the best use of the available dynamic headroom. With the limiters activated, all you need to do is turn up the signal level until you start to see some clipping. The limiters will make sure that you are getting the maximum clean power output at all times. Setting the switch to the IN position completely disables both limiters. I wouldn't expect to find all of the exact same types of features in amps that cost a fraction of the Camcos such as the CS or AP amplifiers. I still haven't read up on the Lab Gruppens or Powersofts but they may have similar protection devices. I'll have to look those up inthe next couple days. [/QUOTE]

Verification