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Is Global Warming A Thing? (Hurricane Sandy Spinoff)
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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 67484" data-attributes="member: 126"><p>Re: Hurricane Sandy</p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe he posted in jest, but sometimes it is worth taking a step back from both the minutiae of "this is too complex so just trust me", and the Greek chorus chanting "carbon is evil, carbon is evil.. " </p><p></p><p></p><p>I may be arrogant but even rocket science, or brain surgery, or whatever is not indecipherable just complex and intricate, so no I do not just take anybody's word for it, especially the government with the nonsense they have been trying to push on us this last decade or so. Carbon credits and a carbon tax will not do squat for mother earth, but will be another powerful axe for government to wield over the private economy. Talk about conflict of interest, they have the most to gain, from us acquiescing to their programs and giving them even more control over the energy industry. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting that you mention pharma. I recall a discussion a few years back about an unintended consequence of fostering a "holier than Caesar's wife" criteria for government review and oversight panels that industry experts could not be sullied by any past consulting contracts. You automatically rule out the most qualified experts who make a living working for the people who will pay them best. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>As I have already suggested government, or at least some in government, are not completely disinterested in the outcome of global warming research. </p><p></p><p>I think this peer review management is simpler than we make it. Opinions and subjective conclusions will always vary with self interest, but the data should be inviolate. All the research no matter who funded it "should" be building a huge combined data base that future scientists can study and review. The only reported case of fudging the actual data I am aware of was done by a university academic type. While there may be more we haven't heard about yet. </p><p></p><p>This is a slow moving phenomenon, so we need to be deliberate and thoughtful about doing anything that actually impacts the global temperature. All the arm waving and economic disruption that doesn't alter global temperatures, is a waste of money and effort that we have better use for, especially now. The world economy does not need another sea anchor, just because it seems like a good idea..</p><p></p><p>JR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 67484, member: 126"] Re: Hurricane Sandy I believe he posted in jest, but sometimes it is worth taking a step back from both the minutiae of "this is too complex so just trust me", and the Greek chorus chanting "carbon is evil, carbon is evil.. " I may be arrogant but even rocket science, or brain surgery, or whatever is not indecipherable just complex and intricate, so no I do not just take anybody's word for it, especially the government with the nonsense they have been trying to push on us this last decade or so. Carbon credits and a carbon tax will not do squat for mother earth, but will be another powerful axe for government to wield over the private economy. Talk about conflict of interest, they have the most to gain, from us acquiescing to their programs and giving them even more control over the energy industry. Interesting that you mention pharma. I recall a discussion a few years back about an unintended consequence of fostering a "holier than Caesar's wife" criteria for government review and oversight panels that industry experts could not be sullied by any past consulting contracts. You automatically rule out the most qualified experts who make a living working for the people who will pay them best. :-) As I have already suggested government, or at least some in government, are not completely disinterested in the outcome of global warming research. I think this peer review management is simpler than we make it. Opinions and subjective conclusions will always vary with self interest, but the data should be inviolate. All the research no matter who funded it "should" be building a huge combined data base that future scientists can study and review. The only reported case of fudging the actual data I am aware of was done by a university academic type. While there may be more we haven't heard about yet. This is a slow moving phenomenon, so we need to be deliberate and thoughtful about doing anything that actually impacts the global temperature. All the arm waving and economic disruption that doesn't alter global temperatures, is a waste of money and effort that we have better use for, especially now. The world economy does not need another sea anchor, just because it seems like a good idea.. JR [/QUOTE]
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